The Ferris Conspiracy Forum
Sign up  |   |   |  Calendar
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment   Page 1 of 36      1   2   3   4   Next   »
Admin

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 3,165
Reply with quote  #1 

In relation to the recent events involving the Nat Fraser case, here is another case that will simply just not go away.

 

The police, prosecution and the dogs on the streets know exactly that William Gage is innocent and this case will cause great discomfort to Jack McConnell as he was friends of the murder victim, Justin McAlroy and his father, and in fact, McConnell was at a Red Rose Ball (a fund raising event sponsored by the father of Justin).

 

Was there pressure from McConnell put on police to come up with results?  They originally charged Mark Clinton from Glasgow's East End, then mysteriously focussed their attention on William Gage, who was convicted for the murder of Justin McAlroy.  Here is a few examples of why William Gage shold also be set free, along with Nat Fraser.

 

If Gage did  not pull the trigger McAlroy's k killer is on the loose; Exclusive ROUGH JUSTICE CLAIM OVER GANGSTER LOCKED UP FOR SHOOTINGANGSTER LOCKED UP FOR SHOOTING.(News)


Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 2/16/2005

Byline: By Annie Brown

THE hitman who murdered drug dealer Justin McAlroy on his doorstep pumped five bullets into his body and left him for his pregnant wife to find. McAlroy tried to take cover under a car but he never had a chance. By the time wife Tracy reached his side, he was dying in a pool of blood.

Two years later, at the High Court, the distraught widow pointed to the man in the dock and branded him a murderer.

Her evidence damned the accused, William Gage. But today, the Record can reveal that the judge at Gage's trial has expressed doubts over his conviction.

And justice campaigners last night told the authorities to set career criminal Gage free - and concentrate on catching the real hitman.

John McManus, of the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation, said: 'Whoever killed Justin McAlroy has got away with it. If you want the guilty to go free, lock up an innocent person.' No one claims Gage is an angel.

Even friends call him a 'ned', a dodgy used car dealer with convictions for assault.

When he was arrested for McAlroy's murder, he was out on licence after serving half of a seven-year stretch for armed robbery.

He drove the getaway car when his mate held up a jeweller's in Perth with an imitation gun.

But Gage's criminal record doesn't make him a murderer. And he was a crook in the junior league compared with Justin McAlroy.

McAlroy was under surveillance by the Scottish Drug Enforcement Agency, although the operation was on hold at the time of the shooting in March 2002.

He had contacts with Les Brown and Robert Wright, who are now fighting extradition to Estonia on a pounds 2.4million heroin trafficking charge.

And at the time of his death, McAlroy owed a pounds 50,000 drug debt. His creditor was rumoured to be gang lord Stewart 'Specky' Boyd.

Four days before the shooting at McAlroy's home in Cambuslang, near Glasgow, gangland enforcer Mark Clinton visited him to tell him he was running out of time to pay up.

Clinton was cleared last year of the knife murder of another mobster, Billy McPhee.

McAlroy clearly had enemies but was Gage the hitman? According to trial judge Lord Emslie, the evidence against him would have failed to convince many juries.

Gage's appeal is due to be heard in April. And sources say that in a written report to appeal judges, Lord Emslie has referred to crucial evidence as circumstantial.

It is believed he has also questioned whether there was enough corroboration to convict Gage.

There is no suggestion McAlroy's widow lied in court. And Lord Emslie is not critical of Tracy's testimony. But the jury chose to believe her evidence and that was key to the verdict.

As she picked out Gage in court, Tracy said she would 'never forget those eyes'.

But initially, the widow told police she only 'glimpsed' the killer as he ran from the scene. And she failed to mention his eyes at all.

Witnesses including Tracy agreed that the killer wore a padded jacket. But Gage was convicted after police found a thin black cagoule with his DNA on it in the back of the alleged getaway car.

Detectives put the cagoule on a tailor's dummy and showed it to Tracy. It was only then that she changed her description of the hitman's jacket. The dummy also had distinctive eyes. Tracy had not mentioned the killer's eyes until she saw it.

Only Tracy's evidence placed Gage at the murder scene and only she said she recognised the cagoule. All the other witnesses continued to insist that the killer's jacket was padded.

One, Stephen Madden, said he saw the gunman pull off his mask in the getaway car. He told the court the man had short cropped hair.

But as Gage stood in the dock, his long hair stretched down his back. Mr Madden refused to identify him as the killer.

Gage's height was also an issue. Witnesses described the gunman as 5ft 10in, but Gage is 6ft 2in. The prosecution tried to link Gage to the alleged getaway car, a white Saab found partly burned in Easterhouse, Glasgow, after McAlroy's murder.

Gage had owned the car but claimed to have sold it months earlier.

Although Easterhouse is only 15 minutes' drive from Cambuslang, the Saab was not abandoned until more than an hour after the shooting.

As well as the black cagoule, a scarf and pair of gloves were found in the Saab.The clothes carried traces of Gage's DNA, as well as that of two unknown people.

Firearms residue was found on the scarf and jacket, but not on the gloves.

Prosecutors insisted that the car tied Gage to the murder. But witness descriptions of the vehicle conflicted with the Crown case.

Mr Madden thought the car was a Metro or Maestro. Another witness, Charles Bowman, thought he saw a white Volvo.

But later, when Mr Bowman was shown the Saab at a Paisley police station,he agreed that it was similar to the vehicle he had seen.

Gage said he was with his girlfriend Annie Ross at the time of the murder. She wrote in her diary that they went for a drive, then had a drink.

But prosecutors claimed Gage made a call on a mobile phone at 10.30pm from the Easterhouse area.

Gage said the phone wasn't his, although it had several of his contacts in its memory. Gage has just completed the first year of a minimum 20-year sentence at Shotts jail in Lanarkshire.

But his supporters insist there are too many inconsistencies for his conviction to stand.

Gage's case has been championed by the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation.

Fellow prisoners at Shotts wore 'Free William Gage' T-shirts during a football match against warders, and fly posters proclaiming his innocence have appeared around Glasgow.

John McManus, of MOJO, said: 'This case should never have come to trial and there certainly wasn't enough evidence for a conviction.

'I am convinced he is innocent. And if the system puts innocent people in jail, that should worry all of us.'

 

ROUGH JUSTICE EXCLUSIVE: NO HITMAN; Career criminal William Gage was given life for the gangland execution of a drugs dealer. Now the trial judge has cast doubt on the verdict, supporting Gage's claim he's..(News)


Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 2/16/2005

Byline: By Annie Brown

THE judge who sentenced an armed robber to life over a gangland execution has cast doubts over the conviction.

The Record understands Lord Emslie will tell appeal judges that many juries would have refused to convict William Gage because the evidence against him was circumstantial.

Gage has consistently protested his innocence since being sentenced to 20 years for the murder of drug dealer Justin McAlroy.

A campaign to fight what many see as a miscarriage of justice has grown in strength and an appeal is set for April.

Now the Record can reveal that trial judge Lord Emslie has expressed doubts over the conviction.

It is understood that in written review to appeal judges, Lord Emslie refers to crucial evidence as circumstantial.

It is believed he also highlighted inconsistencies in the case against Gage and questioned whether there was corroboration.

It was claimed that Gage, 33, shot McAlroy, 28, five times outside his home in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, over a pounds 50,000 drug debt in March 2002.

But there were numerous inconsistencies in the evidence led against him.

Witnesses described the killer as being 5ft 10in with a round face and cropped hair. Gage is a lanky 6ft 2in and had long hair at the time.

Dummy The gunman was said to be wearing a padded jacket but it was the discovery of a thin cagoule with Gage's DNA that helped convict him.

Crucially, it was the testimony of the victim's wife Tracy that damned Gage at his trial.

She insisted she would 'never forgot those eyes' when she pointed out Gage in court.

Yet she initially told police she only 'glimpsed' the killer as he ran from the shooting and failed to mention his eyes.

Witnesses, including Mrs McAlroy, said the killer had been wearing a padded jacket and that his face was covered.

But police later showed her a tailor's dummy with distinctive eyes dressed in the cagoule found in a burnt out car.

It was only then that she changed her description of the jacket - and mentioned the killer's eyes.

Gage's lawyer Darryl Love said his client deserved to win the appeal, adding: 'Given the lack of evidence, I have deep concerns regarding the conviction.'

 


__________________
I'd rather be hated for what I am, than loved for what I am not".
________________________________
hammer6

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 8,395
Reply with quote  #2 

Investigative journalists all over Scotland know that this man is not an assassin he was merely convicted on the evidence of what STRATHCLYDE POLICE and the CROWN PROSECUTION TEAM presented to the jury.

 

No doubt vital evidence was withheld from the defence in this case too as it would conflict with the picture that the prosecution was painting of the case as was STRATHCLYDE POLICE who have now been dispatched NORTH to investigate their own when they have enough on their own doorstep to deal with and conveniently hide any material that would have been crucial to Willie Gage!


__________________
The TRUTH is out there...........
REAL1

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,601
Reply with quote  #3 

I don't know Willie Gage but from whats been said in the pub is right then he should be out the door as a free man as the hit on that boy who got shot was done by a pro and with no disrespect to WG he was a small time crook so even the police would know all this if its been talked about in pubs and its shocking to think they can just lift you from your home and do you for a murder when the guy who shot the boy had short hair and this WG has had a ponytail and long hair for years? or was this a way of been seen to be doing something to get this guy off the streets who killed someone and it was not WG just like big TC and Joe Steele and many others so yes I would say from what I have heard he is definitely no hit-man nor murderer but a convenient victim who was convicted as a result of police getting people to change their minds...........................FREE WILLIE GAGE!!!!!!


__________________
Judge yourself before judging others.
Admin

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 3,165
Reply with quote  #4 

We are outraged as much as the Willie Gage supporters over his recent appearance at the High Court, where everyone was prepared for Willie to walk out the front door as a free man.  However, he was denied his appeal and in doing so, put another black mark to the shame of the Scottish Judiciary.

 

Here are some of the facts and articles in relation to the murder, subsequent trial and latest attempt at the Appeal Courts:

 
15 March 2006
HITMAN'S FREEDOM BID FAILS

A HITMAN jailed for murdering a gangster has failed to have his conviction overturned.

Three appeal judges yesterday ruled that William Gage should return to prison to continue his life sentence.

Gage, 35, yelled: "It's a travesty" as the decision was announced.

He was convicted of gunning down heroin dealer Justin McAlroy, 30, But he has always insisted he was the victim of mistaken identity.

McAlroy, 30, was shot in front of his wife Tracey outside their Cambuslang home.

Judge Lady Paton said while the case against Gage, of Hillhead, Glasgow, was circumstantial, there was enough to allow the jury to convict.

<A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|g%3B28294899%3B13-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15164844|15182740|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/home" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A>

Paddy Hill, of the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation, said: "It's a joke that the court was not even prepared to listen to the evidence. William Gage is innocent."  

<A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|r%3B28294899%3B2-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15180136|15198032|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A>

Paddy Hill from MOJO (Miscarriage Of Justice Organisation), along with Thomas TC Campbell, both wrongfully convicted prisoners, both North & South of the Border are supporters to free Willie Gage.

 

However, both Paddy and TC had to spend many yeras in  prison fighting for their innocence.  Was this because that the poeple who put them there, i.e. the police, the prosecution, the judge and the ministers involved are either all dead or retired, or have nothing whatsoever to do with their previous posts within the Judiciary?

 

The murder of Justin McAlroy was vigorously investigated at the instructions of the most senior legal and political individuals (at that time) and were applying pressure upon the police to expedite their enquiry - why?

 

We cannot give you the answers, we can only give you the facts.  It's up to you to decide.  Here are a few articles from our archive department that may give some indication that if a trial judge gags the media during the original murder trial and now with the subsequent ruling from the High Court, we certainly hope that the SCCRC do not allow Willie Gage to spend a substantial period of time beind bars, wrongfully incarcerated until the most senior figures involved are either dead, retired or have nothig to do with the Judiciary.  This is what we call the TEN YEAR+ ITCH.  We only have to look at the TC appeals and how long it took them to be freed, the same position that Paddy Hill and others found themselves in.  That is why this case is so shocking, even the dogs on the streets know Willie Gage is innocent, so who are the High Court of Judiciary protecting this time?

<A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|f%3B28294899%3B8-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15178811|15196707|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/home" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A>

 

 

GANG WAR MURDER; Man, 23, shot in street.(News)


Sunday Mail (Glasgow, Scotland); 5/2/2004

Byline: By RUSSELL FINDLAY

A FATAL shooting in Glasgow was linked to a gangland power struggle last night.

Craig McGhee, 23, was shot in Shettleston. Detectives fear it may be linked to a vicious underworld feud for control of the city's east end.

It came the day after the dramatic collapse of the trial of a man accused of stabbing a gangster in a busy pub.

On Friday Mark Clinton, 33, walked free from court where he was accused of killing gangland heavy Billy McPhee.

McGhee, of Kinning Park, and his 44--year-old uncle were attacked in Kenmore Street at 12.30am yesterday.

One source said: 'The police will be looking closely at the timing. There is a strong suggestion that these attacks are linked to the whole Clinton and McPhee thing.'

The nephew died at the city's Royal Infirmary, where his uncle is in a stable condition. Detectives now fear Clinton's aquittal will lead to more bloodshed.

Today, the Sunday Mail can reveal that he was also a key figure in the trial of William 'Tiler' Gage who was jailed in February for the murder of dealer Justin McAlroy.

During Gage's trial the judge ordered a ban on Clinton's name being reported. The court heard how Clinton had helped arrange for McAlroy to visit a prisoner in jail on the day he was shot.

Meanwhile, in an unrelated incident, a teenager has died after he was attacked in a flat in Marmion Crescent, Motherwell, yesterday Gerard McCrossan, 19, from Wishaw and 39-year-old George Longmire were assaulted at around 4.15am.

The stabbings are believed to have taken place after a late-night party.

Police are also investigating the attempted murder of two men, aged 22 and 23, in Glasgow's Battlefield area.

They were attacked by a gang of four men just past midnight yesterday in Lochleven Road.

 

PUSHER DRANK BUBBLY WITH TOP MINISTERS; Dead gangster dined with Labour big guns.(News)


Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 3/15/2002

DRUG dealer Justin McAlroy mingled with some of Scotland's top politicians days before his gangland-style execution.

He rubbed shoulders with First Minister Jack McConnell and Northern Ireland Secretary John Reid at a charity bash.

The Red Rose Dinner was six days before the 30-year-old was gunned down outside his luxury home.

He drank champagne as he sat five yards from Reid's MI5 minders at the do in the Dalziel Golf and Country Club near Motherwell, Lanarkshire.

McAlroy was shot five times in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, in a suspected drugs feud last Thursday. His pregnant wife Tracy, 26, was waiting inside.

Last night, a Labour Party insider said McAlroy's presence at the dinner was "deeply embarrassing".

Wishaw MP Frank Roy and North Lanarkshire Council leader Jim McCabe also attended.

Porsche owner McAlroy went with his father Tommy and workers who helped build the new suite that hosted the bash.

One guest said: "It was amazing to see Justin at an event like that. He sat about five yards from John Reid's minders. Some of the people who attended knew Justin and the kind of people he mixed with.

"It was suspected he was involved in drugs.

"Guys who are un-employed don't usually drive around in top-of-the- range cars and drink champagne all the time."

Organisers last night claimed they knew nothing of McAlroy's background.

And the Labour Party said neither he nor his dad were members but couldn't say if either had made donations at a local level.

A spokesman added: "There is nothing inappropriate in senior politicians attending a function like this. Only Mr Roy had ever met Justin but that was some time ago." Roy declined to comment on his relationship with the McAlroys but the spokes-man said he had known Tommy for two years.

He added: "He cannot be described as a friend, but as an acquaintance."

The spokesman said Roy was "shocked and saddened" by McAlroy's death and had visited his parents to offer his condolences.

Last night, police refused to rule out quizzing dinner guests to build up more details about McAlroy's background.

Underworld sources have linked the killing to the murder of gangsters John Hall, 45, and David McIntosh, 33, in Larkhall, Lanarkshire, last October.

 

PRIME SUSPECTS 2: Victim's pal phoned gang rival to say: ``The wee man's been shot''.(News)


Sunday Mail (Glasgow, Scotland); 2/15/2004

l DRUG dealer Justin McAlroy was shot dead just days after attending a Labour party fundraiser at his dad's club. William Gage pulled the trigger but today we reveal new evidence pointing to the man who ordered the hit.

MURDERED drug dealer Justin McAlroy's best friend called a rival crime boss just minutes after he was shot. Craig McAteer, 32, phoned Stewart 'Specky' Boyd as McAlroy, 28, lay dying in hospital.

Hitman William 'Tiler' Gage, 32, was convicted of the gangland execution last week.

But his paymaster was never caught. Gangster Boyd, who died last year in a car crash in Spain, was at the centre of a drugs turf war linked to McAlroy's death.

McAlroy was close to Frankie 'Donuts' Donaldson, one of Boyd's enemies and rivals.

And detectives were stunned that McAteer, one of McAlroy's closest pals, kept Boyd informed of his fight for life after he was shot outside his home in Cambuslang, near Glasgow.

The High Court in Glasgow last week heard that Gage had killed McAlroy in March 2003, over an outstanding pounds 50,000 drugs debt.

He shot him several times with a 9 mm pistol. Half an hour before his murder, McAlroy dropped off McAteer. The pair had spent part of the evening at Dalziel Park Golf and Country Club, near Motherwell. The victim's dad Tommy is a co-owner of the club.

McAteer's appearance as a witness sparked interest among former McAlroy associates.

He sensationally admitted phoning Boyd after the shooting to tell him: 'The wee man's been shot.'

He then admitted ringing him several more times during the night. Asked why he phoned Boyd, he replied: 'I cannot answer that.'

McAteer revealed that he and McAlroy had spent the day of the murder visiting two gangland thugs in Perth Prison.

The pair of them went to see George 'Goofy' Docherty who was jailed in 2001 after being caught with a gun.

He was nicked while out on licence from a seven-year sentence for a machete attack.

Docherty was also a Donaldson associate and a sworn enemy of Boyd.

Before he was jailed, Docherty was recruited by Donaldson to help in the battle against Boyd.

They also visited William 'Basil' Burns, 43, who was jailed for 15 years in 2001 for shooting a female security guard.

But in court McAteer agreed that he made a series of differing statements to police about what he was doing on the day of the murder.

Asked why he didn't reveal details of the prison visit immediately, McAteer claimed it was because the police didn't ask him.

One source said: 'McAlroy mixed with a lot of people but he was very close to Donaldson who was quite clearly at war with Boyd.

'McAteer should have taken his chance in court to explain why he phoned Boyd just after the shooting.

'It's known that McAlroy was seen with Boyd before his death but that could simply have been Boyd reeling him in.'

Before his death, Boyd was the prime suspect for a series of murders and unexplained disappearances between 1993 and 2000.

One source said: 'McAlroy associated with awide array of gangland figures, many of whom did not get on with each other.

'He and his father were close to Donaldson.' In 2001, we revealed a failed plot by Boyd's gang members to 'put a hole' in 'Donuts'.

And neither of the criminal heavyweights could afford to back down in a feud that became increasingly personal.

A source said: 'The first person McAlroy's best pal phoned after the shooting was Boyd.

'Nobody knows what was said but it's interesting to say the least, given the hostility between Boyd and Donaldson and Donaldson's closeness to the McAlroys.'

Donaldson was a frequent visitor to Dalziel Park and was friendly with McAlroy and his father.

Donaldson even planned to build a house on land owned by McAlroy Snr.

But last night a source close to the McAlroy family dismissed speculation that Boyd ordered his death.

He said: 'Justin was known to have been seen with Boyd in the days before he was killed.

'As for McAteer there doesn't seem to be any blame being attached to him by the family.

'Tommy and him don't talk, they're from totally different planets, but that's not to do with Justin's death.

'My understanding is that someone else was behind this and it was over an outstanding debt, significantly lower than pounds 50,000.'

 

TC BACKS MAN JAILED FOR DRUG BARON MURDER.(News)


Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 4/14/2004

ROUGH justice victim Thomas 'TC' Campbell is backing a man convicted of killing a drugs baron.

Campbell was wrongfully imprisoned for the infamous Ice Cream War murders in 1984.

Now he is giving his support to 32-year-old William Gage, who was jailed for 20 years for shooting Justin McAlroy outside his home.

Campbell and co-accused Joe Steele were cleared last month after serving 20years over the killing ofsix members of the Doyle family.

Now Gage's campaigners say he is also the victim of a miscarriage of justice.

Campbell said: 'It looks as if the police have taken the lazy option and didn't want to look beyond that.

'There's definitely something fishy here. It's a terrible shame because people forget that every time someone innocent gets convicted it means that someone guilty goes free.' Gage's case has now been picked upby the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation.

Underworld sources have already claimed that Gage is innocent and that the gunman was a man suspected of a series of contract killings.

It has been reported that friends of McAlroy have put a pounds 10,000 bounty on Gage's head for a prison hit.

McAlroy was shot five times in a quiet residential area of Cambuslang, near Glasgow,in March 2002.

 

http://www.ferrisconspiracy.com viewpoint:

 

If Willie Gage was successful there would be an immediate call for an investigation into the way Strathclyde Police handled the case, much like they did very recently with  Grampian Police in the way they handled the Shirley McKie affair.

 

The Judge knew as far back as 1984 that Thomas Campbell and Joe Steele were innocent men and done everything in their powers to suppress that fact that to admit that their convictions were unsafe, would have been a massive loss of morale within Strathclyde Police because only then would we have learnt that at least 11 police officers of Senior Role committed wholsescale perjury.

 

The mere fact that TC & Joe Steele spent so long in prison was in relation the deaths, retirements or movement of position had changed of those police involved in the case.

 

We feel that Willie Gage is the fall guy and quite a useful get out clause for Strathclyde Police due to the fact that they themselves staged a tailors dummy with Willie Gage's jacket on it and fresh evidence such as McAlroy's wife's comments about "never forgetting those eyes".

 

I am sure that although she must have been very distraught and it is understandable the position of such a person who has just witnessed their partner being killed, however, it was her new fresh police solicited evidence that convicted the wrong man.  So how long is he going to wait to be freed? 

 

 

<A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|w%3B28294899%3B3-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15180137|15198033|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|j%3B28294899%3B1-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15180322|15198218|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|a%3B28294899%3B7-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15178810|15196706|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/home" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|w%3B28294899%3B11-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15164930|15182826|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/home" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|r%3B28294899%3B2-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15180136|15198032|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|b%3B28294899%3B4-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15180138|15198034|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|w%3B28294899%3B3-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15180137|15198033|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|j%3B28294899%3B1-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15180322|15198218|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|y%3B28294899%3B10-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15178813|15196709|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/home" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33a9|f|f8|%2a|l%3B28294899%3B6-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15178809|15196705|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/home" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank> </A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33c3|f|f8|%2a|p%3B29623410%3B5-0%3B0%3B12432414%3B4307-300|250%3B15531805|15549701|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=47990658&dlv=1016,31239,464132,232435,843867&kid=232435&ucl=111111A&dmn=.range86-134.btcentralplus.com&scx=1280&scy=800&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,6,0,43621,43620,6429,591,0&iid=464132&bid=843867&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sky.com/ordersky/equipment/skyplus" target=_blank target=_blank> </A>click here!!

__________________
I'd rather be hated for what I am, than loved for what I am not".
________________________________
REAL1

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,601
Reply with quote  #5 

Right gloves are off.......................If Willie Gage won his appeal then there would have to be an investigation into the way the case was handled and that investigation would come from an outside force right?.................meanwhile somewhere up north the very POLICE FARSE that handled the inquery are too busy investigating another force over the Nat Fraser's case.mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so Willie Gage is sent back to rot in jail while they cover their own asses.

 

There is no shame with this lot as they kept TC & Joe locked up for 20 years even though they knew the GLASGOW 2 were INNOCENT & IMPRISONED by a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY on a scale that would frighten the bloomers aff yer granny!

 

Willie Gage is the WRONG MAN and they F*****S know it!


__________________
Judge yourself before judging others.
REAL1

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,601
Reply with quote  #6 

I just heard that two men from Dunfermline have been freed by the appeal courts after vital statements were withheld by the prosecution that could have proven that the men were not guilty.

 

It was alleged the two newly freed men had been charged with the death of one of their mates after a drinking session and the evidence that eventually cleared them was witness statements that clearly indicated the murdered man was seen SEVERAL HOURS after the alleged murder and is now regarded as another miscarriage of justice so how many more are there still to come?

 

 


__________________
Judge yourself before judging others.
Admin

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 3,165
Reply with quote  #7 

Hi REAL1... thanks for your post.  In response to the story about the two Dunfermline men who were wrongfully convicted, and have now been freed, here is a recent news article about what happened - AND WHY.

 

MURDER TRIAL 'MISLED' BY POLICE

 

"An outside force has been brought in to investigate Fife Constabulary after two men who spent ten years in jail had their murder conviction overturned.

 

Steven Johnston (42) and Billy Allison (41) were found guilty of murdering Drew Forsyth in Dunfermline in 1995.

 

But appeal judges said new evidence suggested a miscarriage of justice.  They ruled that officers "deliberately misled" the Crown by not passing on all the information they had about the date on which the victim was killed."

 

 

It might not be surprising to hear, that the Officer in charge of the enquiry at the time, Dick Munro, is now retired. 

It will be Lothian & Borders who are brought in to investigate Fife Constabulary.


__________________
I'd rather be hated for what I am, than loved for what I am not".
________________________________
Admin2

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 9,038
Reply with quote  #8 

Why was STRATHCLYDE POLICE sent up NORTH to investigate the way that the police handled the NAT Fraser case? was there no other so-called independent police forces nearer hand or are STRATHCLYDE so good at HIDING the FACTS that they were brought in as they are very good at investigating themselves as you only have to look at what they have done to TC & Joe Steele and no one has been appointed to investigate them or are they conducting yet another internal inquiry? if they are then why are they up north and if there is no current investigation into the mass murder of the Doyle family then bring in the English cops or better still is it not about time to have a public inquiry? as that's what TC wants.

 

Now we have the Edinburgh cops investigating the dirty crew from FIFE over the recent miscarriage of justice that robbed yet another two men of TEN YEARS of their lives!

 

Do you not think that public confidence in the police as a whole in Scotland needs a right good boot up the A**E? especially when the police claim to be protecting us not running a massive MAFIA outfit who are accountable to themselves! NO CHANCE.

 

I am very patriotic about Scotland and the word Independence comes to mind and although we will never see it in my lifetime what about a TRULY INDEPENDENT BODY to investigate the police as it has now become a police pandemic of the most vile corrupt practices under the sun and something has not merely to be seen to be done but actually doing something like abolishing the police from investigating themselves first.

 

The Executive have the powers but I would not trust those in power as they are already up to their own neck along with the Lord Advocate over many issues they knew were about to blow up in their faces like the Shirley McKie case and if you cannot trust the police , the politicians or the hierarchy of the Scottish Judiciary (COLIN BOYD QC) then who can we trust?

 

Frightened? you should be as there is more to come!

 

Here is the latest:

 

18 March 2006
STITCHED UP
Men who spent 10 years in jail for murder go free as court raps force and labels cop a liar
By Gordon Mcilwraith

POLICE may face criminal charges after two men convicted of murder 10 years ago walked free yesterday.

The appeal judges who freed Billy Allison and Steven Johnston accused cops of deliberately suppressing evidence and branded the senior detective in the case a liar.

Later, it was revealed the Lord Advocate has ordered an inquiry into the police team's conduct, which may result in a prosecution.

Allison, 41, and Johnston, 42, were jailed for life for beating and strangling Drew Forsyth, 34, after a drinking session in the victim's flat.

The pair admitted assaulting him on November 3, 1995. But they said they left him with only a nose-bleed.

Police insisted Drew died on that day, even though seven defence witnesses told the murder trial they had seen him alive and well much later.

And five more police statements from "honest, decent people" were suppressed, misleading prosecutors.

At the Appeal Court in Edinburgh, Lord Gill, the Lord Justice Clerk, said: "The evidence suppressed by police was vital and the police deliberately misled the Crown in a serious way."

The judges were told a pathologist could not determine the date of Drew's death.

And as more evidence emerged of sightings of him after November 3, they failed to seek more expert opinions which might not fit in with their belief he died on that day.

After the ruling, Johnston said he would be suing for compensation.

He said: "If the police had done their job properly from the start, I would not have spent 10 years in jail.

"It's not a mistake. These are deliberate actions by the police.

"I feel bitterness and anger but all that I want to do now is rebuild my life."

Detective Superintendent Richard Munro, who led the inquiry into Drew's murder at his Dunfermline home, was labelled a liar by the judges over his evidence at the appeal. Munro resigned from the force two years ago ahead of disciplinary moves unconnected with the murder.

Lord Gill said: "He was taken point by point through inadequacies and irregularities in the inquiry procedures.

"He was unable to give us a satisfactory explanation of any of them. Much of his evidence was untruthful, in our view."

The judges said they were also not satisfied other officers who gave evidence had told the whole truth.

Lord Gill added that if the other five witnesses who claimed to have seen Drew after November 3 had been allowed to give evidence at the trial, it would have strengthened the defence case and greatly increased the chance of an acquittal.

He went on: "At an early stage, the police team decided the murder had been committed on November 3. They obstinately rejected all evidence that did not fit their theory.

"But the conduct of the police went beyond obstinacy. They suppressed and altered evidence casting doubt on their theory of the date of death and the evidence suppressed was vital.

"The result was the procurator fiscal, and, in consequence, the defence, were kept unaware of evidence having a material bearing on a vital issue. That was grave misconduct."

Later, a Crown Office spokesman said Lothian and Borders Police would be investigating the Fife Police team's conduct.

Drew's mum, Marjory, said: "I share the judges' outrage as not only did the defence not have access to these witnesses, the prosecution was not given the opportunity to challenge them.

"Allison and Johnson have served 10 years in jail, which should have given them enough time to reflect on their lifestyle, change their ways and have a productive future.

"Drew will still be dead and we will still be grieving."

 

THE DAILY RECORD VIEW:

 

AN UNFAIR COP

IT is part of a police officer's job to come up with witnesses and evidence to enable our courts to prosecute criminals.

We don't expect them to suppress vital evidence, change statements and pursue only the evidence that fits their favourite theory.

But that's exactly what several Fife officers stand accused of today.

Three appeal judges believe there was a serious miscarriage of justice over the 1995 murder of Drew Forsyth in Dunfermline.

So much so that yesterday, they overturned the convictions of two men who spent 10 years in prison for the killing and set them free.

Lord Gill said the judges' decision didn't go so far as to rule on the guilt or innocence of Billy Allison and Steven Johnston.

 

 (MEMBERS CAN USE THESE LINKS BELOW)
<A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33ac|f|e8|%2a|a%3B29319749%3B2-0%3B0%3B12949903%3B4307-300|250%3B15452414|15470310|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=82001920&dlv=1016,31239,425556,254256,909491&kid=254256&ucl=111111A&dmn=.proxy.aol.com&scx=1024&scy=768&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,9,0,7141,7134,6429,15478,0&iid=425556&bid=909491&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.yell.com/yell/campaign%3Fcam%3Dmar06" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank><IMG SRC="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/1127448/300x250.gif" BORDER=0></A>

But he said the jury at their trial were not given evidence that would probably have swayed their decision and the investigators "deliberately misled the Crown in a serious way".

The judge said police decided on a theory early in the murder inquiry and refused to budge from it, failing to follow several "obvious" lines of investigation.

They rejected evidence from key witnesses and failed to pass it on to Crown or defence lawyers.

The officers involved will now be investigated and a report will go to a procurator fiscal.

Trust in Fife Police will be restored only if these officers are treated in exactly the same manner as any member of the public.

If the investigation backs up the appeal judges and finds officers suppressed evidence and changed witness statements, they must be prosecuted and dealt with by the same legal system they disgraced with their behaviour

 

ferrisconspiracy VIEW:

 

The highlighted section from the Daily Record View is that 'Trust in Fife Police will be restored only if these officers are treated in exactly the manner as any member of the public' are we on the same planet here as the TRUST in ALL POLICE FORCES in SCOTLAND is long gone so do you not think it wise to have a REAL independant body investigating matters of grave concern or are you happy with the current set up with POLICE INVESTIGATING THE POLICE? Why not ask your readership if it is now time to change the way in which POLICE INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES? as you fine well know its the PUBLIC that lose the confidence so why not restore it with an independant body to investigate allegations and criminal conspiracies committed by the POLICE?

<A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33ac|f|e8|%2a|j%3B29319749%3B0-0%3B0%3B12949903%3B4307-300|250%3B15452412|15470308|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=82001920&dlv=1016,31239,425556,254256,909491&kid=254256&ucl=111111A&dmn=.proxy.aol.com&scx=1024&scy=768&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,9,0,7141,7134,6429,15478,0&iid=425556&bid=909491&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.yell.com/yell/campaign%3Fcam%3Dmar06" target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank target=_blank><IMG SRC="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/1127448/300x250.gif" BORDER=0></A> <A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|33c3|f|e8|%2a|n%3B29319749%3B0-0%3B0%3B12949903%3B4307-300|250%3B15452412|15470308|2%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3fhttp://red.as-eu.falkag.net/red?cmd=url&flg=0&&rdm=82001920&dlv=1016,31239,425556,254256,909491&kid=254256&ucl=111111A&dmn=.proxy.aol.com&scx=1024&scy=768&scc=32&sta=,,,1,,,,,,,0,9,0,7141,7134,6429,15478,0&iid=425556&bid=909491&dat=http%3a%2f%2fwww.yell.com/yell/campaign%3Fcam%3Dmar06" target=_blank><IMG SRC="http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/1127448/300x250.gif" BORDER=0></A>

__________________
FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS
Admin

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 3,165
Reply with quote  #9 

Hi All... with regards to the 'Dunfermline Two', here is an article which appeared in today's edition of The Herald newspaper, and is as follows:

 

JUDGES ACCUSE POLICE AS LIFERS ARE CLEARED

 

Appeal judges yesterday condemned the actions of police who "suppressed evidence" as they overturned the murder convictions of two men jailed for battering a friend to death in a drunken brawl.

 

The Court of Criminal Appeal fiercely criticised the conduct of the Fife police investigation which had not allowed Steven Johnston and Billy Allison a fair trial.

 

Three judges, ruling there had been a miscarriage of justice, said the police team investigating the death of Drew Forsyth had "obstinately" rejected all evidence not fitting their theory.

 

Lord Gill, the lord justice clerk, said: "But the conduct of the police went beyond obstinacy.  The evidence suppressed by the police was vital".

 

Five witnesses had their statements suppressed, two had them altered and one witness had his falsified.

 

Lord Gill described much of the evidence of Richard Munro, then a detective inspector leading the investigation, as "untruthful".  He added: "The police misconduct did not end with the trial".

 

The decision to quash the convictions and life sentences of Mr Johnston, 42, and Mr Allison, 41, who had protested their innocence during their ten years in prison, led to calls for a public enquiry into all aspects of the legal system.  The ruling follows concerns over the handling of a number of high profile cases.

 

Colin Boyd, the Lord Advocate, and Cathy Jamieson, the Justice Minister, have come under fire in recent weeks for failing to order an inquiry into the Shirley McKie affair.

 

An investigation has also been launched into how vital evidence was withheld from defence lawyers in the Arlene Fraser murder case.

 

Yesterday, Mr Johnston said he was "bitter and angry" and would be looking at the question of compensation.  "What has gone on in this case are not mistakes.  These are deliberate actions by the police and especially the guy in charge of the investigation".

 

Mr Allison declined to comment.

 

John Beckett, QC, Advocate-depute, told the court: "In the light of concerns raised during the course of this hearing, Crown counsel have instructed a full investigation to be carried out into the gathering and reporting of information to the Crown by Fife Constabulary".

 

He said the Crown would not be asking for a retrial.

 

Lord Gill, sitting with Lords Osborne and Johnston, said in a written judgement three detectives who played a key role had all since left the force.

 

Mr Munro resigned two years ago "in advance of disciplinary proceedings unconnected with this case".  Said to run a hotel he yesterday denied suppressing information.

 

John Nessel, a former detective sergeant has disappeared, while Derek McEwan, then a detective inspector in charge of the incident room, now lives in Spain.

 

Mr Johnston and Mr Allison were jailed for life in March 1996.

 

 


__________________
I'd rather be hated for what I am, than loved for what I am not".
________________________________
hammer6

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 8,395
Reply with quote  #10 

ferrisconspiracy: UPDATE

 

19 March 2006PS QUIZ 'TEC BRANDED A LIAR

A FORMER detective branded a liar by appeal court judges is to be quizzed by police.

Ex-Chief Superintendent Richard Munro and other Fife police colleagues are accused of hiding evidence.

Billy Allison and Steven Johnston were jailed for life for beating and strangling Drew Forsyth, 34,10 years ago. But on Friday their convictions were dramatically overturned.

The men admitted assaulting Forsyth on November 3, 1995, but said they left him with only a nosebleed.

Munro and his squad insisted Forsyth died that day despite testimonies of seven witnesses they had seen him alive days later. Five more statements were suppressed and altered.

Munro was branded by Lord Gill, the Lord Justice Clerk, as being "untruthful".

Johnston, 42, and Allison, 41, have always protested their innocence and now intend to sue for damages


__________________
The TRUTH is out there...........
Magpie

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 815
Reply with quote  #11 

This is long overdue to hear a Judge branding the Police as 'Liars'. This rare statement should be seen and exposed more often as it definately occurs 'often'. It shouldn't take for an appeal court hearing and a blatant infringement of a persons human right, FREEDOM, for this fact to be established, it should be exposed in the original trial.

 

The Sunday Times March 19, 2006

Liars don't blink: they keep still and concentrate hard


FORGET the fidgety liar nervously blinking, scratching his nose and stroking the back of his head. Researchers have found that liars stay motionless and control their blinking as they try not to give anything away.

When liars do use their hands, they use extravagant movements to cover up their dishonesty, stretching out their arms or rhythmically jabbing the air to emphasise a point.

The findings are likely to be of interest to police, employers and suspicious spouses, who may wrongly interpret nervousness as dishonesty but miss more reliable indicators.

 

Magpie says: This information should be of use to Judges when dealing with CORRUPT POLICE!

hammer6

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 8,395
Reply with quote  #12 

Is justice truly BLIND Magpie? as some judges do not want to expose the prosecution witnesses as liars especially the twitchy eyes of a police officer in the witness box and some judges even fall asleep and would miss the BLINKING or dismiss it as unproven science


__________________
The TRUTH is out there...........
Admin2

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 9,038
Reply with quote  #13 

I once was informed of an event when bank robbers were fleeing from the scene in a getaway car doing in excess of 70 MPH flying round a corner a mile or so from the scene of the crime.

 

At this very same corner an off-duty police officer was out shopping with his wife and gave a statement to the investigating officer that he saw the culprits.

 

The off-duty cop went to trial as a prosecution witness and claimed that he had SPECIAL training to identify FACES and not only pointed to the three men in the dock it transpired that the driver was wearing a ski mask when he entered the second getaway car.

 

This evidence came to light by two old age pensioners who saw the change over from the first car to the second one near their home and this SUPERHUMAN COP still stuck to his story and the men were found not guilty as they were at a funeral at the time of the robbery and several prison warders were in attendance to escort a prisoner to a family funeral who knew these men from previous custodial sentences and gave evidence for the defence teams.

 

It transpired that a spate of armed robberies were carried out by these men in the past but were never charged and SUPER COP was once involved in one of the robbery inquiries so it was just as well for the men in the dock to pay their respect at their friends funeral or else SUPERCOP'S evidence would have no doubt convinced the jury of their guilt.

 

So where does it leave this facial recognition training for elite SUPER COPS?

 

Way back in DISNEYLAND if you ask me


__________________
FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS
Bilko

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,480
Reply with quote  #14 
Bilko was planning to take both his grandsons to DisneyLand in a couple of years time when they are both old enough to really appreciate the trip......looks like a could save myself a few quid by taking the two weans to Pitt St instead....I could then show them Mr Magoo at close quarters!! Bilko
__________________
Law and justice are not always the same. When they aren't, destroying the law may be the first step toward changing it. :D
hammer6

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 8,395
Reply with quote  #15 

WRONG PLACE Bilko as PITT STREET POLICE HQ is the CIRCUS its the Executive that are in DISNEYLAND!


__________________
The TRUTH is out there...........
Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.