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hi magpie. excellent post you done there.seems after eleven years theres never going to be any form of enquiry reguarding the saftey net treatment that micheal howard dished out to his family.disgusting how micheal howard still receaves a fat pay packet every month and his family still on the streets spreading misery.

 

How much does them GET OUT OF FREE JAIL CARDS cost? is it like how to buy a PEERAGE?


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Cross-border legal blunder sees jewel thieves walk free...

A CRIMINAL gang which pulled off a jewel robbery in Scotland worth £750,000 has escaped justice because of a cross-border legal blunder.

A warrant for the English gang's arrest was issued in Scotland but not signed by an English magistrate, leading to the case against the gang collapsing.

 

The jewels were stolen from the boot of a rep's car in Perth. There was no sign of forced entry to the vehicle and suspicion initially fell on the salesman.

Police retraced his route around Scotland before the theft on 7 October, 1999 and CCTV footage

showed the same vehicle following his Honda Accord across Grampian region in the days leading up to the robbery.

Police believe the gang used a device to copy the rep's electronic car key and open his vehicle to steal the jewellery.

Following the warrant error, a spokeswoman for Tayside Police said none of the gang would face charges and the case was effectively now closed. None of the jewellery has ever been found.

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Paedophile's prison term reduced
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Duncan was initially jailed for 13 years for his crimes
A serial sex offender who drove one of his young victims to the point of suicide has seen his jail sentence cut by three years.

Paedophile Alexander Duncan, 55, had admitted crimes over a 17-year period.

Judge Lord Wheatley had jailed him for a total of 13 years telling him: "This is a truly horrible case."

However, the Court of Criminal Appeal in Edinburgh heard the judge had been mistaken about the maximum sentences allowed for some offences.

Duncan, who was sleeping rough when he was caught, admitted a range of sex offences.

Harming herself

One of his three young victims, who was four years old when Duncan began to molest her, had tried to kill herself, the High Court in Aberdeen heard in August.

Another had a nervous breakdown and had been harming herself since she was 12 years old.

Not guilty pleas to more serious allegations of rape and assault with intent to rape were accepted.

Appeal judge Lord Nimmo Smith said that Duncan had used the girls to gratify himself sexually.

It was accepted that his offences were not at the most serious end of the scale, the court heard.


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30 November 2006
SHERIFF THROWS THE BOOK AT RACIST.

A WOMAN who kicked and racially abused a policeman was yesterday told to read a book about being Scottish.

Sentencing Diane McCue, Sheriff James Scott said: "I advise you to go to the library and get a copy of Who Are The Scots?

"It deals with who we are. We are all of a mixed race."

McCue, 56, had admitted taunting Constable Albert Mohammad, who was described as being "of a mixed race with an Asian father".

When he arrested McCue, she said: "You are not British, I suppose your father is a P*** b ******."

Officers had been called to her flat in July after she threatened a new neighbour.

Edinburgh Sheriff Court heard the man had recently moved after his twin brother was convicted of rape.

He had confronted McCue, who had been drinking, after his son claimed a dog in her care had chased him.

McCue said he was a "rapist f***ing beast" and threatened to harm his pregnant partner.

Leanne McQuillam, defending, said McCue was now taking medication to deal with a drink problem.

She added: "It was an unpleasant episode which would have been very distressing to the victims."

Sheriff Scott placed McCue, of Spalding Crescent, Dalkeith, Midlothian, on probation for 12 months with the added condition that she attend alcohol counselling.

McCue, who also admitted breach of the peace, said she would read the book he had mentioned.

 

Who Are the Scots and the Scottish Nation?
 
 
 

Who Are the Scots and the Scottish Nation?
 
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Two classic books are brought together here. "Who are the Scots?" describes the peopling of Scotland. It begins 7000 years ago with the hunter gatherers finding their way north to an empty land. Then it charts the impact of 5000 years of migration and invasion. Successive waves brought Beaker people, Celts, Picts, Scots, Britons, Angles, Norsemen, and Anglo-Normans. Among the last of these, the greatest of Scotland's foes and the bravest of its champions were squaring up for battle as the period ends.
 
"The Scottish Nation" takes up the story with rival dynasties struggling among themselves and against the English. It shows how the Scots managed to secure an independence and within its uneasy confines create a new and sophisticated nation.
 
It considers how the new Stewart dynasty sought to tame the highlands and islands. It examines the nature of Mary's reign, Knox's Reformation, and the union of the crowns under James VI.
 
It explores the clash of loyalties during the years of the Covenanters, under Cromwell's Commonwealth, and within the restored monarchy of Charles II. Finally, it tells how this first nation of Scotland came to an end with the union of the parliaments.

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Fears lack of prison space is behind rape case bail rise...

MORE rapists than ever are being bailed, sparking fears dangerous men are being freed to prevent prison overcrowding.

Executive figures revealed yesterday that the number of people charged with rape who are freed on bail has more than doubled in the past six years to 270 in 2005/06.

Eileen Maitland, an information officer at Rape Crisis Scotland, agreed more people are being charged with rape, but feared more men were bailed to save prison space."This is a matter of serious concern. We would question what kind of risk assessment is being carried out.

"Safety of women should be paramount but it seems to be a case of expediency in keeping down overcrowding in prisons over women's safety."

Kenny MacAskill, justice spokesman for the SNP, said the rise was "shameful".

However, the Scottish Executive insisted the number is up because of the increase in the number of people charged with rape and changes in bail laws.

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'outdated' rape laws set for overhaul.

THE biggest shake-up of rape laws in Scotland for 30 years has been ordered by ministers in a move that could see hundreds more offenders each year facing potential life sentences.

The narrow definition of rape is set to be replaced with a law covering a wider array of attacks on women and men. It is hoped this will persuade more victims to report attacks in the knowledge there is a greater chance of securing a conviction.

Campaigners are also demanding a new definition of consent, to close a loophole allowing some accused rapists to escape conviction on the grounds a woman had not explicitly objected to sex. They want a system under which a rape would be committed if there was no "tangible act of agreement" from a sexual partner.

For the first time, the law is also expected to tackle 'male-on-male' rape. Currently, rape is only defined as an attack on a woman. The change will bring the law in line with recent reforms in England.

Last week, Scotland on Sunday revealed that as few as 6% of women who seek counselling for rape report the crime to the police. Many may be put off by the prospect of an arduous prosecution process offering little prospect of a conviction: only 4% of reported offences end in a conviction.

Justice minister Cathy Jamieson said she expected recommendations to be made to her early next year. She added that by widening the definition of rape, it may boost conviction rates.

However, the change in the law is unlikely to be put before Parliament until after next May's Scottish elections.

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10 December 2006
IN THE CLEAR.

A GUNMAN paralysed for life after a policeman shot him has been told his injuries mean he will not be charged with armed robbery.

And no action is being taken against the officer who fired the shot that crippled Damien Gillen.

The hold-up at a Spar store was captured on CCTV and shows Gillen, 34, pointing what looks like a pistol at shopkeeper Tahir Hamid.

Gillen was told last week in a letter from the Procurator Fiscal in Glasgow all charges against him had been dropped and the case marked no proceedings.

The Fiscal decided it was not in the public interest to prosecute Gillen given his medical condition.

We can also reveal that no action is being taken against the officer who shot him, or Strathclyde Police, following an independent inquiry by officers from Lothian and Borders.

The Fiscal decided that the actions of the officer were "appropriate".

Gillen brandished a gun at shopkeeper Tahir in Cathcart Road, Mount Florida, Glasgow, before making off with his haul - cigarettes and vodka worth just £12. Armed police rushed to the scene and eventually tracked down and confronted Gillen.

One of them opened fire with a handgun and the bullet penetrated Gillen's spine.

The shooting took place in Somerville Drive - about 90 minutes after the robbery - and it turned out that Gillen was not armed at that time.

The CCTV footage appeared to show Gillen, who had been a regular customer in the past, pointing a gun at the shopkeeper. Gillen, who lived in nearby Newlands Road, has spent the last six months in the spinal injuries unit of Glasgow's Southern General Hospital.

Asource said: "Damien is resigned to the fact that he will never walk again and will spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair."

Gillen is due to be sent home from hospital soon. It is understood he will be found a place in sheltered housing.

Tahir could not be contacted for comment yesterday. But at the time he said: "The staff thought he was messing around. They said, 'Don't be stupid'. He just said, 'Give me the bag'. Then he walked out.

"It seemed like the guy was on some kind of warpath. Something clicked. He didn't hide his face. He wasn't hiding anything."

A spokesman for the Crown Office in Edinburgh said yesterday: "The case has been marked no proceedings because it was not in the public interest."


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thats some comment from the crown office.BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.my opinion is it most deffently is in the publics interest that when anybody gets crippled for life or even worce shot and killed by any police force it is in the publics interest.any normal citizen commiting a gun crime in london has an instant 30 year tariff put upon them now.in my eyes the same should apply to the police.whats worce they aimed at this fellas spine so they knew exactly what harm they were doing. oh and how kind of the callous b******s they wont press charges against the victim.



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Yeah i agree Linda was there really any need for severe damage to be done like that



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jkane.not enough attention is highlighted concerning the tactics armed police use they either shoot to kill or aim and maim. same old sauce they come out with OH WE SUSPECTED HE WAS ARMED.do you ever notice when one of them get shot we gotta read the crap in the daily papers for days and days.then when a poor sod like this fella gets shot theres hardly a mention aboat it

 

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What happens when police kill?
By Tom Tanner
Producer, Panorama

Dr Bill Lewinski
Dr Lewinski says perception is marred by fiction
New research into how armed police react in the highly charged seconds before pulling a trigger has exonerated many of blame in the US. Now it's being investigated by British police.

Harry Stanley, Jean Charles De Menezes and Mohammed Abdul Kahar: three innocent men shot by the Metropolitan Police.

In the last 12 months the Crown Prosecution Service announced none of the officers involved in these shootings would stand trial. In fact, no officer has been convicted over any of the 24 fatal police shootings in the past 10 years. For many it smacks of a cover-up.

Conviction escaped

The day after the CPS announced its decision not to charge the two officers in the Stanley case The Independent splashed on its front page the headline: Shot dead by police: 30. Officers convicted: 0.

When armed police make mistakes, the consequences can be fatal and public confidence seriously damaged.

"As a firearms officers you're either a hero or a murderer," says former Metropolitan Police commissioner Lord Stevens.

We know that people can't think and shoot simultaneously in this kind of high stress situation
Dr Bill Lewinski

Many people are left with the impression that the police are getting away with murder. But new research, instrumental in the CPS decision not to prosecute the officers in the Stanley case, paints a very different picture. It has helped many officers in the US avert conviction when they have killed an innocent civilian.

At the forefront of the research is Dr Bill Lewinski, who argues that the problem with public perception arises because the our "knowledge" comes from fiction.

"Everybody in our nation, including law enforcement, gets their training about police shootings from Hollywood," says Dr Lewinski, professor of sociology at Minnesota State University.

That ignorance extends to police, judges and juries. It wasn't until Dr Lewinski started conducting experiments in the early 1990s that anyone had looked at how quickly suspects could move and how long it took police officers to react to that movement.

Turns to run

He discovered that in the two seconds it takes an officer to draw and pull the trigger, a suspect can fire nine rounds. A person can turn and move as much as 13ft (4m) in one second.

So an officer facing an attacker may decide to shoot - and later swear they were facing them - when in reality their victim has turned to run and been shot in the back.

Jean Charles de Menezes
Mr Menezes was shot on the Tube the day after failed bombings
In the US, an astonishing 70% of victims of police shootings are shot in the back or the side.

Something like that is said to have happened when Insp Neil Sharman and PC Kevin Fagan shot and killed Harry Stanley in September 1999. Stanley was carrying a table leg and not a sawn-off shotgun, as they had been told.

The officers insisted he turned and faced them pointing the "gun" directly at PC Fagan. But the fatal bullet struck Stanley in the back of the head.

Their story did not match the evidence and they could not remember key details. It looked like they were lying.

Arrested on suspicion of murder in June 2005, the officers hired Dr Lewinksi. His theory of what happened in those fatal split seconds helped persuade the CPS not to charge the officers, although Stanley's wife, Irene, called the decision an "injustice".

By extension, Dr Lewinksi's findings raise serious questions about all police shootings.

Mental picture

As well as his findings about police officers' reaction times, Dr Lewinski has made some extraordinary discoveries about what happens in their brains.

His latest study aims to find the limitations of an officer's recall of a shooting. He has been hired by the Police Federation and will be conducting the experiment later this month in London with Metropolitan Police officers.

Harry Stanley
Harry Stanley was shot on the way home from the pub

In a pilot study in Minneapolis in August, the results were alarming. The officers did not know how many shots they fired and their description of the suspect was inaccurate.

"One of the things lost in the stress response is the counting. Mathematical ability is certainly suppressed. We know that people can't think and shoot simultaneously in this kind of high stress situation," says Dr Lewinski.

If police officers cannot remember key details, it raises serious concerns about the reliability of their evidence. But it does not mean they are lying.

The CPS has said it will take this into consideration in future cases.

"Operational officers will encounter stress threat danger that may not come to most members of public once in a lifetime," says Chris Newell, CPS principal legal advisor.

"It would be stupid on our part not to be alive to the fact that people under stress won't necessarily act in a wholly rational way and won't necessarily recall events with the clarity that hindsight can bring.

New threat

The world has changed since Harry Stanley was shot in 1999. In the age of the suicide bomber, the stakes have been raised and pressure on firearms officers has been further magnified.

Police critics and the police themselves accept more tragic accidents are an inevitable consequence of human frailties.

"There will be incidences," says Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, "and this is what the public has to understand, when people will be shot in the interest of safety to the community, and in the interest of safety to the officers."

Panorama: When Cops Kill was screened on BBC One on Sunday 15 October at 2215BST.


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Tony Martin was jailed because he shot the intruder in the back. If what Dr Lewinski says about the victim having time to turn round before the trigger is pulled is correct, then surely this applies in his case. Therefore was his conviction correct
Marion Booth, Doncaster, England

Perhaps it would be beneficial for the public to know how many times that armed police have been used, and where "guilty" suspects have been shot. This would put everything in perspective more. Three shootings in six years are by themselves not high figures.
GDW, London

To suggest that policemen are murderers is totally incorrect. Murder must be intentional and pre-meditated. The officer must have intended to kill the suspect before pulling the trigger, and also not be in fear for his or anyone else's life. In all the shooting cases I've read, the police were clearly acting to arrest the individual, and only turned to their guns once they believed the individual was a threat. Even if they were wrong, it means the case for murder is non existant. The other option of manslaughter is a possibility, all you would have to prove is that the officer did not follow procedure (maybe he didn't shout enough, or wasn't wearing police identification). Firearms police must always be under scrutiny, but when they do 'get off' they shouldn't be demonised. If they are found innocent of a crime it is because they demonstrated their decision to open fire was justified in the circumstances. Retrospective thought is all well and good, but in a situation like firarms officers find themselves daily, they don't have the luxury of knowing the full facts. If most people make a mistake in their work, it means very little. For firarms police it can destroy lives - and not just the victims.
Matt, Manchester

This is absurd. "in the two seconds it takes an officer to draw and pull the trigger, a suspect can fire nine rounds. A person can turn and move as much as 13ft (4m) in one second". The suggestion is that the police officer decides at the start of the process to shoot and if the person turns and runs, he/she shoots them anyway? It may be correct that an officer can't recall the number of rounds fired or the exact sequence of what happens. That is stress. But if a civilian is shot in the back, an officer pulled the trigger at the wrong time. They made a bad decision - it may still not be murder - but it certainly looks like incompetence.
Peter , Aberdeen, Scotland

But if these things about the speed of movement are true, surely they are true of all shootings? What makes it different or special if it is a policeman and not a civilian who has the gun? The problem is that it is one law for us and another law for the police. Either we should apply this to every shooting or forget about it.
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If armed police are going into situations where they can't be "wholly rational", surely this means they need to improve their tactics.
Onisillos Sekkides, London, UK

So police are free to murder at will since they will never be held accountable. It is a disgusting injustice. When I was a kid police were someone we could trust. Now, they are someone to fear. Every policeman I saw on my last trip to London was hugging a gun.
Jo, Brit in the US

Just read 'Blink' and you'll never be quite so ready to condemn shootings like these again...
P Johnson, Bristol

All this proves is that Police Officers are, like the rest of us, human. They are prone to mistakes in moments of high stress. Our mistakes mean that the dinner gets burnt, theirs that a person dies. It's the nature of their job, just like a soldier. They should not be penalised for being human.
Glenn Willis, Kettering, England

So what can be done to reduce the risks of innocent people being shot? Is it better training so police officers are aware of decision making during those situations? Better intelligence and prior analysis of the situation? In the case of de Menezes, the police did not shoot him because of an instinctive reaction but because they misidentified him in the first place, after he left his building and as they followed him to the tube station. The shooting might have been avoided had the officers following him identified that he was not one of the suicide bomber suspects, or that he was not carrying any explosives.
Neil, UK

While deploring the actions of the police in the incidents mentioned, I can understand how the need for split-second decisions led the officers concerned into the actions they carried out, and their subsequent confusion over what took place. What I have never understood (and have not seen discussed anywhere) is why clearly faulty intelligence was passed to the officers for them to take action on, without it being filtered by someone in charge far enough removed from the situation to see the big picture. All of these incidents occurred due to a failure in leadership - it's not the foot soldiers who should be in the dock but those who failed to exercise control.
Paul Robinson, Inverness Scotland


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sadly my opinion remains the same reguarding metropolitian police EXECUTIONERS. 1995 a victim was shot twice in the belly at close range.close enough for a normal detain and arrest situation.victim was on day release from prison and suspected of being in stolen car.the executioner was only a PC.why was he allowed to be armed without any experience.as usual pc stood trial at old bailey for murder only to be told no case to answer to.no justice for the poor family AGAIN.

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sadly my opinion remains the same reguarding metropolitian police EXECUTIONERS. 1995 a victim was shot twice in the belly at close range.close enough for a normal detain and arrest situation.victim was on day release from prison and suspected of being in stolen car.the executioner was only a PC.why was he allowed to be armed without any experience.as usual pc stood trial at old bailey for murder only to be told no case to answer to.no justice for the poor family AGAIN.

Hi Linda OUR opinion still stays the same too...although we have to let other opinions count on this debate....There is a shoot first and cover their asses operation in place for years and now they try to baffle us with science?...  30 SHOT DEAD BY POLICE - 0 CONVICTIONS really sums it all up eh?


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hi admin.i would never doubt any opinion ferris conspiracy provides on this site reguarding police tactics and police corruption.only the real facts and truth you get from this site.

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