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"The information the Crown has supplied to us is that ... two police officers had given statements [before the trial] that the rings had been there [in the bathroom] on the day she disappeared, which would totally undermine the cornerstone of the Crown's case," he said.

Mr Jackson said the new ground of appeal was as good as he had ever lodged, and he submitted to the court that "the only proper thing to do is grant interim liberation".

John Beckett, QC, the advocate-depute, said the Lord Advocate, Colin Boyd, QC, had regarded it as a matter of serious concern that evidence had not been made available to the defence or to the court at the trial.

Two high-powered inquiries regarding Grampian Police and the procurator fiscal's office in Elgin had been set up to establish the facts and to ensure all relevant information was available for the appeal.

"There are many aspects that require to be investigated ... it is unlikely that will be completed before the end of the summer," Mr Beckett said.

He put forward no opposition to Fraser's application for interim liberation but suggested conditions might be imposed if the judges, Lords Osborne, Macfadyen and Menzies, agreed to his release.

Another of Fraser's grounds of appeal concerns evidence about the rings which might be given by his son, Jamie, 19, and the judges said they would not want Fraser to be living with him pending the appeal.

Mr Jackson told the court Fraser's mother lived with his children, Jamie and Natalie, 14, in the family home, and Fraser would be able to stay in his mother's house, also in New Elgin. Lord Osborne said: "On that basis, interim liberation will be granted."

Mr Fraser was collected from outside Shotts Prison by Glenn Lucas, who was originally charged with but then cleared of conspiring to murder Mrs Fraser and dismembering her body.

Fraser made no comment as he left, but Mr Lucas said the decision was vindication for both of them. "I'm delighted at his release," he said. "It's vindicated me and vindicated him. It proves Grampian Police have lied all the way through from beginning to end and also brings into question the plans of the Crown and what they've been up to as well.

"The police lied from the beginning. They tried to stitch me up and obviously stitched up Nat at the same time. Grampian Police will obviously put today down in their annals as a bad day in the office. I think questions have got to be asked about the integrity of certain police officers in Grampian Police."

Mr Lucas also criticised the fact Strathclyde police were investigating Grampian's handling of the case, arguing there should be a public inquiry.


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Sunday Mirror 14 May 2006
By Steve Lowe

FOUR policemen have lost their jobs after taking crooks from jail for sex romps with their girlfriends in return for confessions to more offences.

So keen were the lags to get their rewards they even owned up to crimes committed while they were actually in jail.

Police often take remand criminals to point out houses they have raided. They are not charged with new offences but the admissions boost the force's "case solved" figures and can win them reduced sentences.

But in this case prisoners were said to be getting sex as well ??" and one was allowed to use the back of a police car.

Other prisoners said they got meals, cigarettes and home visits.


After a 12-month inquiry, three police offices in Luton were "required to resign" and a fourth resigned voluntarily.

Another was reprimanded and fined 10 days' pay.

Deputy Chief Constable Martin Stuart of Bedfordshire Police (pictured left) said: "The honesty and integrity of our staff is vital to public confidence."



Sunday Mail 14 May 2006
Married dad is suspended over stalker allegations
By Lynn Mcpherson

A MARRIED police officer has been suspended after being accused of stalking a female colleague.

Dad-of-two Paul Donaldson, 45, is also alleged to have sent the 24-year-old a string of sexy texts.

The claims have rocked Tayside Police - where Donaldson's wife Jane also works as an inspector.

She has also worked for the police intelligence unit, which investigates phone and text abuse.

Donaldson was suspended earlier this month after his alleged victim - who we have chosen not to identify - made a formal complaint to bosses.

She spoke up after becoming increasingly concerned about his "inappropriate behaviour and contact".

Donaldson has also been reported to the Procurator Fiscal and could face criminal charges as well as internal disciplinary proceedings by his own force.

Last night, a force insider said: "The allegations are all the more shocking because loads of people in the force know Paul and Jane as a couple.

"The girl who made the ' allegations is obviously upset by the whole thing but she is continuing in her job the investigation continues.

"Jane is an inspector - a real high flier-but despite the allegations she is standing by him.

"Paul is obviously devastated by the whole thing and has protested that he's done nothing wrong. She is choosing to believe him.

"He has got 23 years' service with the force and was only a few years away from early retirement but he could lose everything now."

A friend of the alleged victim said: "She says she is traumatised by the whole thing and doesn't want to talk about it. It is difficult for her at work."

Donaldson married Jane in 2002 - two years after his divorce from first wife Stella.

He left her - his spouse of 12 years - to set up home with Jane in 1998 after meeting her when she was his probationer.

He has an 18-year-old son and a 15-year-old daughter from his first marriage but sources close to their mother say he no longer sees them.

Last night, he and Jane refused to emerge from the house they share in a village near Broughty Ferry, Dundee.

A Tayside Police spokesman said Donaldson was suspended and added: "We can confirm a report is being sent to the Procurator Fiscal and it would be inappropriate to comment further."


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BBC NEWS  Monday, 15 May 2006


Inspector guilty of false charges
Mark Hession
Mark Hession used the police computer to get his rival's details
A West Midlands Police inspector has been ordered to complete 240 hours community service after accusing his wife's lover of false driving offences.

A jury at Stafford Crown Court heard Mark Hession used the police national database to find Stuart Edwards' personal details.

Hession, 41, then issued prosecution notices of false offences to him.

He was found guilty of two charges of misconduct in a public office between January and September 2005.

The court heard Walsall-based Hession asked colleagues to check details of vehicles on the database.

'Became obsessed'

Sentencing him, Mr Justice Mitting said: "You allowed yourself to become obsessed by Stuart Edwards and his friendship with your wife.

"You did it out of revenge, to harass him and you wanted to show him you were a powerful man who could make his life uncomfortable for him."

Hession said Mr Edwards had made his life hell after he pursued his wife, Kate.

He accepted he asked for the checks but denied making up the motoring offences, one for illegal parking and a second for jumping a red light.

The inspector has been in police work since he was 18 and now faces a disciplinary hearing.


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Hi All... thanks for all your posts with regards to the topic of 'Deviant Behaviour Of The Police'.  It would seem that the people who are employed to serve and protect, and keep public order, are fast becoming the REAL criminals in this country.


With regards to Magpie's previous post, about police inspector Mark Hession, and his unauthorised use of the Police National Database in order to find details of someone else so that he could issue them with false offenses is an absolute disgrace, perhaps moreso that he has been 'punished' with a pathetic 240 hours community service.


And yet again, we have the "assurance" that this man will be facing a disciplinary hearing.  WHY?  Any employee, of any company, who misuses computers or confidential information to further their own personal gain is immediately fired, without the opportunity of a disciplinary hearing!


But I forget... the police are a law unto themselves, and I am left in no doubt that disciplinary hearing or not, this man will keep his job. Disgraceful.

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BBC News Friday, 10 March 2006


Pc defends naked picture threat
George Hall
The officer denies the allegations from his former girlfriend
A policeman threatened to display indecent photographs of his ex-partner after she falsely accused him of raping her, Peterhead Sheriff Court has heard.

PC George Hall, 44, said he made the threat against Lynn Morrison, 33, because it was a serious allegation.

Mr Hall of Cruden Bay, Aberdeenshire, is accused of attempting to extort money from Ms Morrison by threatening by text message to show the images.

The community beat officer with Grampian Police denied the charge.

Text message

The photos of Ms Morrison were taken by herself and Mr Hall on a digital camera during their year-long relationship and downloaded onto both their computers.

When they separated in August 2004 Ms Morrison still owed Mr Hall £300 he had lent her.

The court heard how Mr Hall had been "bothering" Ms Morrison over the repayment and in one text message she accused him of forcing her to have sex - something she later admitted to police was a lie.

On 3 March, 2005, Mr Hall is said to have sent Ms Morrison a text message telling her: "I will tell everyone about you and your lies and stealing and the photo texts I saved.

"You have 10 days to get me my money."

Ms Morrison then contacted police who removed equipment from Mr Hall's house, including his computer.

Lynn Morrison
Lynn Morrison was said to have been left shocked

In court on Friday, a police video of an interview between Mr Hall and Det Sgt David Abel was played.

In the video Mr Hall told DS Abel and another detective: "I threatened to show pictures of her.

"I had just been accused of raping her so I was very angry and I threatened to do it.

"I was angry about the debt, I told her I needed the money for the kids' holiday.

Indecent images

"She turned nasty, accused me of being a rapist so I returned the serve, to put it bluntly."

Mr Hall told DS Abel he had made the threat "in the heat of the moment".

When asked if he would have followed the threat through, he replied: "No way, I have my dignity."

Mr Hall also denies an alternative charge alleging he committed a breach of the peace by causing Ms Morrison, who is deaf and has been assisted in court by an interpreter, to believe he would display indecent images of her in a public forum.

The trial continues.


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Police accused of 'tricking' men
Bank of Scotland robbery
The robbery took place at a Bank of Scotland branch in Aberdeen
A judge has accused Grampian Police of tricking suspects to gather evidence against them after an armed robbery.

Lee Higgins, David Scott and Adam Murphy were freed when their trial at the High Court in Aberdeen collapsed.

They were accused of being part of an armed gang which carried out a £100,000 robbery at the Bank of Scotland in Greenwell Road, Aberdeen, last July.

Lord Macphail said detectives should not have put two of the men in adjoining cells and listened to them.

In his report into why he dismissed the case, Lord Macphail described the methods used by Grampian Police as a trap.

It is clear that the police subterfuge in this case was a form of covert surveillance
Lord Macphail

Two of the accused had been put in adjacent cells while detectives secretly listened to their conversations, despite protests from the uniformed sergeant in charge.

The judge said the police action was incompatible with the men's right to a fair trial as it breached the European Convention on Human Rights.

Lord Macphail said: "In my opinion the methods used by the police in this case can only be described as a trap.

"The trick worked. The accused would not have spoken as they did if they had known that the officers were listening."

'Not uncommon'

During the trial, advocate depute Peter Hammond, prosecuting, tried to defend the police action by saying the crime was serious, other suspects were still on the run and a large sum of money was missing.

Lord Macphail said in a report on Friday that the crime was serious but "regrettably not uncommon".

Fortunately none of the guards had been seriously injured, the judge continued.

He said it was not an act of terrorism, no-one had been murdered or seriously assaulted and no woman or child had gone missing or been traumatised by sexual violence or abuse.

Grampian Police
The judge said police had not acted correctly at the headquarters

Mr Higgins, 18, Mr Scott, 19 and Mr Murphy, 20, all appeared from custody earlier this year to deny assault and robbery, claiming they had alibis.

It was alleged they were part of a masked gang which struck as a Brinks security van was delivering bags of banknotes to the Bank of Scotland branch on 27 July last year.

Security man John Baker had a knife held to his throat during the raid and was struck on the hand and leg with the knife.

The following morning police raided a flat where they detained Mr Higgins and Mr Scott and seized money.

Back at the Grampian Police HQ the men were questioned, gave an innocent explanation for the cash and said nothing which linked them with the robbery.

The duo were then put into adjoining cells despite protests from the uniformed sergeant in charge of the cell block who described the move as "peculiar".

Defence lawyers

Detectives were then secretly posted in the corridor outside the cells where they could overhear and note what the prisoners said.

The move was revealed when defence lawyers objected to the "evidence" they had gleaned being put before the jury.

Lord Macphail ruled in their favour and, in the absence of what Mr Higgins and Mr Scott were supposed to have said, the case against them could not be proved.

Lord Macphail promised he would write a report on the reasons for his decisions.

"It is clear that the police subterfuge in this case was a form of covert surveillance," the judge concluded.

"No attempt was made to obtain any grant of authorisation for reasons which are unexplained."

Grampian Police has yet to respond.

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Hi All... thanks for the posts with regards to 'Deviant Behaviour Of The Police' - a subject which is becoming more and more apparent as more cases are brought to light.


I doubt that police corruption is something we will never completely eradicate, although it is something we should never give up on. 


Police corruption

We may have to remind newcomers that there are a number of ways in which the police may behave to the detriment of our liberty and of justice. Perhaps the most common and damaging is that police tend to be prosecution orientated, not to look for justice or avoid injustice, but to obtain results.


This, allied to the tendency of police to identify with populist social ideologies, such as the existence of widespread sex abuse and child pornography, makes them quite dangerous and a threat to family life and individual liberty. A most undesirable development is how the police have been empowered to make moral judgements that writers and other scholars are not permitted to make, such those concerning the morality of human sexual activity and the reality and nature of child pornography.


This empowerment to judge social and sexual behaviour creates thought police. A much-overlooked result of all this is that the police are in danger of losing the support of educated people. For example, extreme pronouncements and bullying threats, such as those emanating from UK police Internet censors, have not done much good for the image of the UK police.

Apart from the adversarial and ideological orientation of the police, there is great scope for police corruption. Some of this is legal corruption (legal for the police) and some is illegal.


At the legal end we have police prowling the Internet chat rooms, setting up stings, both to trap individuals into looking for child pornography and to create ‘cyber minors’ looking for sex with adults. The ‘cyber minors’ are of course police men and women pretending to be children. This process has become known as using ‘Honeypots’ to trap would-be offenders. It has resulted in the extraordinary situation that most of the ‘child pornography’ going onto Internet sites is being put their by police forces or their accomplices to entrap individuals.

Sex abuse and child porn cases are very popular with the police. There is little or no danger for them in such cases, as violent criminals are not involved – indeed, the opposite, often helpless older men. In the current environment, the chances of prosecution are high, and the police may gain popularity from the ‘moral indignation’ of society against child sex abusers. There is also the opportunity for positive exposure in the media, especially where well known people are involved.

The opportunities for corruption

Both sex abuse and child pornography cases offer opportunities for criminal police corruption.


For example, from the very beginning of a sex abuse complaint, a bond may be established between the police and the accuser or accusers. It may be between the accusing female or her mother and the policewoman to whom they bring the complaint. The police will be predisposed to the idea that sex abuse is rampant, which, allied with the opportunity for easy conviction, enhances the bond with the accuser.


This may partly explain the notable absence of any sense of justice or fair play in the attitude of the police towards the accused. How often we see how the police treat false accusations as probably true.


Similar criticisms can be made of social services personnel. What we are seeing here is the absolutist viewpoint, which can spread to the legal profession and to the court and juries. A good example of how absolutism makes corruption easier, and even disguises it, is the number of Swedish administrators and social workers who have, or have had, connections with the profitable foster home industry into which they have been committing children.

Opportunities for corruption abound. It is now known that individual members of the police routinely sell stories of sex abuse and the discovery of child porn downloaders to the newspapers. The higher the profile of the accused, the bigger the fee. As a result, an accused person can be ruined, whether innocent or guilty, although by now anyone reading the contents of this web site will know that being accused in the first instance can make guilt or innocence largely irrelevant.


This corruption has been made all the more grotesque by newspapers following up exposes of accused persons with further stories of the payment of ‘hush monies’ by the accused to the accusers in exchange for the accusations being dropped. In the politically correct language of our absolutist society, blackmail and extortion have become ‘hush money’. Some of the extortionists go on to become ‘media celebrities’, spokespersons for other victims - thus the expression 'celebrity victim'.

Being paid to leak stories is just one part of a corrupt process. The bond between accusers and the police can lead to other possibilities. There are opportunities for some accusers to obtain compensation, whether or not a conviction is obtained, especially where a large institution, such as the Catholic Church, is involved.


If the police deal roughly with a frightened accused, a word dropped into the ear of that accused may indicate that the accuser will drop the accusation in exchange for a certain sum in compensation, such as the ‘hush money’ mentioned above. If the police do a thorough job and find other witnesses, or corroboration, or manage to get the accused to incriminate himself during the interviews, a conviction in court may be much more certain. Where the accused is a good ‘financial mark’ or a member of a religious order or church, civil compensation following conviction could be very great indeed. Whether or not a case goes to court and results in conviction, where compensation or ‘hush money’ are obtained the accusers may have much to thank the police for.

In Ireland it is known as the ‘brown envelope’ after numerous instances where politicians and planners accepted bribes in plain brown envelopes. Where a state’s leaders do it blatantly, police and minor officials follow. Where the case has gone to court and the accused convicted, resulting in a large compensation award to the accuser, there is virtually no way to know if a brown envelope has passed also to the police person involved.

Now that the sex abuse moral panic is being replaced by that of child pornography, the police have new and even safer corruption possibilities, in which the third party of ‘the abused victim’ is not involved. After finding child pornography on a computer, or causing it or a child solicitation to be there through a sting, police are in an ideal situation to solicit brown envelopes, from hapless prey.


We have already heard of innocent individuals receiving unsolicited messages from ‘cyber-patrol’ companies warning them that illegal images have been planted on their hard drives and offering to remove them for a fee. If those innocents have been visiting any porn sites they will feel very vulnerable indeed. Even if they have not, a leak to the media or police could ruin them.


The extortionists planting the child porn images have to have a supply of such images. The police have a huge supply, and a large number of policemen have already been convicted for privately indulging in the genre. The ‘Honeypot trap’ scheme has expanded the potential for this corruption further.


We already have evidence that in certain countries police and related child rights organizations employ both official prosecution and extortion against alleged offenders, using the second both as an alternative to prosecution and even in addition to it. One easy way is for the police to ask the accused to make a contribution to the alleged victim through the child rights organisation, or in cash to a third party.

As with other past scandals, when society decides that the time has come to re-examine the obsession with sex abuse and child pornography, and the police are divested of their powers of moral judgement, then, and only then, will the reality of police corruption be faced. Meanwhile, more people must be prepared to take a stand and denounce it.

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10 June 2006

A POLICEMAN was cleared yesterday of threatening to display

naked images of his ex-girlfriend in public.

George Ha l l was found not guilty at Peterhead Sheriff Court.

The 44-year-old had denied causing a breach of the peace.

He had taken photos of her on a digital camera before they split up.

Hall, of Cruden Bay, Aberdeenshire, remains supended by Grampian

Police until an internal inquiry is completed.




PC cleared of using nude pictures...

A POLICEMAN accused of trying to blackmail a former lover with

naked pictures promised to rebuild his life and career after walking

free from court yesterday.


Community officer George Hall, 44, was alleged to have tried to extort

money from Lynn Morrison, 33, and put her in a state of fear and alarm.


But after being suspended from work, and a trial that was drawn out

over several months, he was found not guilty at Peterhead

Sheriff Court.

Following the verdict Mr Hall, from Cruden Bay in Aberdeenshire,

said: "I hope I can restore my character for the sake of my children.


They have been through a lot, and have even been called names

in the playground.

"The last year and a half has been hell, so the verdict is a huge relief."

Ms Morrison, who lives close to Mr Hall, first met the Grampian

Police officer when she babysat his children.


They started a relationship in 2003.


At an earlier hearing, Ms Morrison, who is deaf, told the court through

an interpreter that they took pictures of each other in various states

of undress, and in the shower.


She said she trusted Mr Hall because "it was love" and she allowed him

to save the pictures on to a computer at his home.


The pair split up in August 2004,and Ms Morrison claimed that in

October that year he started contacting her by text message to

ask if she would pay back £300 she had borrowed from him.


She alleged that when she failed to produce the money, he sent

her more text messages and threatened to show the pictures in

public unless he received the cash within ten days.


Mr Hall, who denied the charges, was found not guilty of putting

Ms Morrison in a state of fear and alarm and an alternative charge

of breach of the peace.


However, he will have to await a decision on regaining his job with

Grampian Police.

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12 June 2006

TWO police officer brothers found themselves at the centre of match-fixing claims - in a local under-13 football league.

A boys' team run by Inspector Robert Kennedy took the Paisley and District Youth Football League title after Robert's brother Des stepped in at the last minute to referee a vital match.

The original ref was mysteriously told the game had been postponed.

Des awarded Robert's side, Duntocher Boys Club, two penalties in the match. And Duntocher's 2-1 home victory helped them win the league by two points.

The original referee didn't appear after someone phoned him hours before kick-off and said the game against Linwood Rangers was off. It's the responsibility of the home club to find a referee.

Des is a qualified ref but usually handles matches in another district, East Dunbartonshire. After Duntocher's victory, Linwood Rangers complained to league bosses, claiming Robert didn't tell them the new official was his brother.


The original referee confirmed to officials in writing that he was told the Duntocher-Linwood match was not going ahead.

The league began an investigation, and Robert Kennedy attended a hearing last week. Des could not be there because he was on duty.

Rival clubs had demanded that the match be replayed, but the league found there had been no wrongdoing and allowed Duntocher to keep their title.

The ruling was made after officials could not establish who told the original referee the game was off.

As a result of the affair, the league made a rule banning all club bosses from using relatives as referees. But other clubs in the league say they will refuse to play Duntocher next season.

One source said: "This has created a lot of bad feeling among the teams. There seems to have been some form of foul play.

"Des is a qualified ref, and as far as that point goes, he was able to take control of the match.

"But Linwood claim they wouldn't have gone ahead with the game had they known he was Robert's brother and the original ref had been told not to turn up.

"We are concerned that this won't be viewed as a fair game."

Robert Kennedy was unavailable for comment on his brother's involvement in the Linwood game. But Des Kennedy dismissed the allegations as "nonsense".

He said: "The opposition knew we were brothers. We look like each other for a start.

"I refereed the match honestly.

"Write the story if you want. I'll laugh these allegations off.

"But be careful because we're both police officers."

A spokesman for the Paisley and District Youth Football League said: "We conducted an investigation and are satisfied there was no foul play. We've yet to in form the teams of this decision in writing, but have warned against this situation arising in the future."

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Deviant behavior is behavior that is a recognized violation of social norms. Formal and informal social controls attempt to prevent and minimize deviance. One such control is through the medicalization of deviance.

Acting upon certain discriminatory facts or problems. It is not the act itself, but the reactions to the act, that make something deviant.

Crime, the violation of formally enacted law, is formal deviance while an informal social violation such as picking one's nose is an example of informal deviance. It also means not doing what the majority does or alternatively doing what the majority does not do. For instance, behaviors caused by cultural difference can be seen as deviance. It does not necessarily mean criminal behavior.

An example of a group considered deviant in the modern United States is the Ku Klux Klan. Milder examples include punks and goths.


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Times Online June 14, 2006

Top detective jailed for million dollar forgery plot

An internationally renowned fraud investigator who became embroiled in a plot to trade a forged bond for half a billion dollars was jailed for two years today.

Detective Sergeant William McKelvie, 43, a high-flying officer with the National Criminal Intelligence Service, used his contacts to supply confidential information to a former colleague trying to sell the bond.

He made calls to track the process of the police probe into the case, and also generated a false intelligence report to keep investigators off the trail off his friend, Robert Miles.

McKelvie, from Esher in Surrey, was jailed for two years after being found guilty of three charges of misconduct in a public office at Southwark Crown Court yesterday. Miles, 47, of Towcester, Northamptonshire, was convicted of aiding and abetting misconduct in a public office and sentenced to one year in jail.

As McKelvie stood impassively with his head bowed in the dock, Judge Elwen told him: "Your motivations, as I’m sure were demonstrated were the prospect of financial gain. Yours were not simply the actions of an over-enthusiastic policeman prepared to go beyond the lengths of friendship."

The judge said he had taken into account the many commendations received by the detective, who had been due to retire last year, and the effect the sentence would have on his family, but had no choice other than to impose a custodial term.

The court had heard the two men met when they worked at Clapham police station in south-west London in the 1980s. Miles left the police force in 1989 and moved to Spain, where he began investing in property.

The bond plot surfaced in 2003, when Miles obtained a draft for $500 million, purportedly authorised by the Ford Motor Corporation, which had been created by a known forger in the US.

The court heard that Miles tried to present the bond to banks, but was rebuffed after the documentation roused suspicions. He then enlisted the help of McKelvie in a bid to check whether investigators were on to the scheme.

DI Simon Ashwin, the senior investigating officer leading the investigation, said: "The use of the European arrest warrant demonstrates the Met’s commitment to bringing the corrupt to justice, no matter the distance or obstacles involved."


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Hi All... thanks for your posts with regards to the topic of 'Deviant Behaviour Of the Police'.


With regards to Admin2's post and the article relating to the cop, George Hall, who was cleared after threatening to expose pictures of his ex-girlfriend, and subsequently no doubt causing her some mental anguish, it comes as no surprise to me that he was found not guilty.  One rule for them and another for us, because you can bet your ass that if it had been Joe Soap off the street who had done exactly the same thing, the words 'Not Guilty' wouldn't have entered the equation.  The link to 'law and order' which also featured in this post was very interesting, and should make good reading for all members (and casual surfers alike....).


With regards to Hammer6's post and the article in which two police officer brothers were at the centre of a match fixing probe, I found this part of the article most intriguing:


Originally posted by Hammer6:


He said: "The opposition knew we were brothers. We look like each other for a start.

"I refereed the match honestly.

"Write the story if you want. I'll laugh these allegations off.

"But be careful because we're both police officers."


BE CAREFUL BECAUSE WE'RE BOTH POLICE OFFICERS?  AND WHAT?  Oh yes, I forget, you are all untouchable...


Admin2's post on deviant behaviour and the subsequent links included throughout the post was excellent and again, something that many people who read this forum could perhaps learn from....


With regards to Magpie's post on the Detective jailed for the million dollar forgery plot - 2 YEARS???  Again, one rule for them and another for us.  Because if it has been one of us that had done the deed (i.e. anyone that doesn't belong in the system), we'd be looking at a much longer stretch than two bloody years.

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Villains: The Met Police

For one reason or another, we live in troubled times. There are undoubtedly people plotting atrocities in the UK and it is the job of the security services and the police to stop them. Intelligence is gathered, leads are followed and arrests are made.

But we have seen from the events leading up to the invasion of Iraq that intelligence isn't all it's cracked up to be.

In the latest case, 250 officers were involved in a raid on a family house in east London. And in the course of the raid, one of the house's occupants ended up getting shot in the chest. The police were confident they'd find chemical weapons; they didn't and nobody has been charged with any crime.

But it's OK. Andy Hayman, the Met's assistant commissioner for specialist operations, has said sorry. Sort of: "I apologise for the hurt that we may have caused." Such sincerity.

The hurt they may have caused? I've managed to make it this far in life without getting shot so I'm no expert, but I imagine there's very little room for doubt that a close-range shot to the vitals is going to smart just a teeny bit.

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News of the World EXCLUSIVE: 18th June 2006

Cop gets his frills stripping online


By Amanda Evans

PC're knickered! Today we expose pervy policeman Ian Mercer—for stripping down to women's panties on the internet and exposing HIMSELF!

The kinky cop has a secret fetish for going undie-cover on webcam, slowly peeling off his uniform then whipping out his truncheon.

In a string of online sex sessions with a £45-a-time dominatrix, 22-year-old constable Mercer paraded around his Stockton-on-Tees living room, flashed his warrant card and pretended to apprehend his online lover.


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He decared: "You're under arrest—for being a dirty slut. Are you going to come the easy way or the hard way?"

The copper scrawled his name and Cleveland Police Force number on his chest in marker pen and suggestively sucked on his finger. Then he performed the most disgusting exhibition of self-abuse with his official-issue helmet.

A pal of his virtual girlfriend revealed: "Mercer loves the humiliation of being ordered about. His bosses will be stunned."

So will the locals. When the web tease asked Mercer if he'd ever had sex with a girl he'd arrested, he replied: "Nah — and if you lived in Middlesbrough you'd know why!"

Last night the PC refused to comment but the force promised an investigation.

Can we really still tell our kids to "Go and find a nice Police Officer" when they're in danger, with the likes of Pervy Policeman Mercer in the system. NO BLOODY WAY.


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England's reaction to Operation Avalanche, a U.S. Justice Department crackdown on more than 250,000 suspected pedophiles across the globe, who were traced using credit cards to pay for Internet child pornography.


In recent weeks, Scotland Yard has arrested over than 1,300 suspects in the investigation, including more than 50 police officers, judges, teachers, doctors, care workers and soldiers, the U.K.'s Guardian newspaper reported.


Cybercop crusade

Jim Gamble, the director of the new Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, tells Mark Gould how he plans to expose sexual predators who are a threat to children and educate young people about the dangers of the net

Wednesday April 19, 2006

Jim Gamble
Jim Gamble: 'The internet is not the Wild West.' Photograph: Frank Baron

Jim Gamble issues a warning: "If you are a paedophile and you are online talking to children tonight, the chances are increasing that you are grooming a police officer and it's going to end in tears for you."

Gamble, a career police officer, is the first director of the new Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) Centre, which will be launched by ministers on Monday. "We are here to tell abusers that the internet is not the Wild West, it's a public place and we police public places," he says. The centre is a world first, bringing law enforcers in the UK, the US and Australia together with the information technology industry, charities and schools. It is fighting to protect children from paedophile abuse, and aims to jail those who make and those who use images of abuse.

By liaising with police services in the US and Australia, the Ceop centre will provide a 24/7 online police station where potential paedophile crime can be reported at the click of a mouse. It will provide education in internet safety for parents and children, and work with the computer industry to develop new products and services that prevent children being exposed to potential abuse.

The UK has seen a sharp rise in the number of paedophile websites - some 6,000 sites were last year reported to the Internet Watch Foundation, the UK industry watchdog, and are now out of reach to UK internet users. This compares with 3,438 sites in 2004. One of the prime areas of concern is the online games world, where children could also be interacting with men who want to groom them for sex.

To tackle these threats, specialists from Microsoft, AoL and children's charities - including Childnet and the NSPCC - have been seconded to the unit. Gamble says the Ceop centre will create fake paedophile websites and have "undercover" officers posing as children on internet chatrooms. It will also have a permanent presence in other countries, initially Cambodia, where it will work with local police identifying and tracking down child abusers and those making money from creating and selling images.

Sitting in the Ceop centre's anonymous HQ in central London, Gamble introduced me to the world of child sexual abuse with a shockingly explicit description of the images that men pay many millions of pounds to see. He spoke without emotion, but for the uninitiated the images were like a punch in the stomach. "These are not 16-year-olds in school uniforms - these are young children being penetrated - horribly abused," he points out.

Gamble was previously a superintendent in the Police Service of Northern Ireland and most recently acting chief constable and head of the National Crime Squad, which deals with serious and organised crime. Since 2002 it has jailed or cautioned 2,200 people in connection with Operation Ore, which was launched after US police gave British police the names and credit card details of 7,200 men suspected of paying for internet images of child sexual abuse.

Gamble is uncompromising in his attitude to those who view images of abuse, and is dismissive of those who say they access paid-for sites for "research" purposes or out of curiosity. "People commit child abuse either directly or indirectly. If you are going online and feeding demand by paying for images, people will meet that demand because they have no scruples. Anyone who puts these pictures of children online not only offends against that child today but every time these images are viewed. And when we capture someone and we have to go back and ascertain the who, what, why and wherefore, that child is victimised again."

He is certain that viewing paedophile images creates child sexual abusers. "The evidence that we have seen is that the individual will gravitate towards wanting more images with more graphic detail. Many offenders when caught said: 'The next step for me is the real thing.'"

Some charities and organisations offer therapeutic treatment to child sex offenders, but Gamble says the only certain way of preventing a paedophile from reoffending is the knowledge they are constantly monitored - both online and in the real world - and face the threat of jail.

Is it possible to change the behaviour of a sexual predator who is a threat to children? "My view is that you cannot change their behaviour to a degree where you can say they will be safe or can be reintegrated into an environment where they can have access to children."

Does that mean these people have no human rights? "Of course it doesn't. It means that we have a responsibility to help them [refrain] from offending again, and where they don't accept that, help to ensure that they are deterred from reoffending because they will be caught."

The Ceop centre will build on the success of a police initiative that used a dummy website to lure paedophiles into revealing credit card details when accessing child abuse images. When website users think they are about to click on an actual image it tells them that their details have been passed to local police. Gamble says Ceop centre officers will also pose as children in chatrooms. "We will operate webcam scenarios so that we will be able to provide the same pictorial evidence as speed cameras."

He denies that these tactics amount to entrapment. "If someone is selling drugs outside school you would want the police to do something about it. We are simply testing whether facts are true. We will collect evidence and hold people to account."

The centre will also educate children about the dangers of the internet. Last year, Gamble's officers - along with a small charity called Childnet, and Microsoft's news service, MSN - provided a series of virtual tutorials for 50,000 children, using modern and multimedia techonology, where they learned about the benefits and threats of the internet. "There are 9.5 million schoolkids in the UK. Imagine if we could get them all to save the Ceop centre's website to their favourites box so that whenever they are online they can fill in a form telling us who they are talking to, what [those people] are saying and why they think it is a threat."

Gamble is confident that children are new-media savvy enough to use the internet with caution, but he says the online gaming environment could attract potential abusers. As a result, the Ceop centre is developing a youth panel from which it hopes to take lessons about protection in the gaming world.

But what about today's moral mindset? Footballers and celebrities boast of group sex. Isn't the commodification of sex making its most taboo forms - even child sexual abuse - in some way acceptable? "In 1874, the Metropolitan police arrested a photographer, Henry Hayler, who had 130,000 paedophilic images on glass plates: the internet didn't invent paedophiles. Our moral compass may have moved.

"There are many who say that people gravitate from adult pornography to child- abuse images. We perpetuate the human race because we have sex with one another - that hasn't led to massive numbers of people gravitating from having sex with an adult to sex with a child. Consenting adults can do what they like. This is about protecting children and we don't make moral judgments, we make legal judgments."

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