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admin2.im all for these animals to be named and shamed in the media to alert parents what they look like.i can never understand how newspapers and programs like crimewatch always expose the normal run of the mill robber with his photo blown up so big it covers the tv screen.then they say hes a danger to the public  then you get a pervert whos out on bail for sick offences hes commited on children or woman and they say have you seen him cause hes jumped bail  i could never imagine myself calling the police if i was ever in a situation where my children have been hurt.i would take the law into my own hands no problem.
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Hi ALL,

 

This is a very sensitive subject and we have our own views in which we would deal with matters.

 

There is a danger though that the VIGILANTE approach would see the relations of the victims getting a far bigger sentence than the sex offenders.

 

What about the children's human rights or that of the parents?

 

Those responsible for this heinous behavior have been getting pampered for far too long.

 

It is the law makers who decide their fate when convicted and have far more support than your run of the mill criminal could ever dream of.

 

That in itself shows just how perverse our system is when dealing direct with sexual predators.

 

Keep the kids safe 24/7 as they are the key to our lives and without them we become nothing but old folk waiting to meet our maker.

 

Our Grandchildren are also the key to our everlasting joy in life and we must do whatever we think best for all of them.

 

As for this imbecile who claimed parents are to blame************ get it right before people take matters into their own hands.

 

 

Great composition A2 as we must not let our feelings get in the way of dealing with pedophiles.


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admin2.im all for these animals to be named and shamed in the media to alert parents what they look like.i can never understand how newspapers and programs like crimewatch always expose the normal run of the mill robber with his photo blown up so big it covers the tv screen.then they say hes a danger to the public  then you get a pervert whos out on bail for sick offences hes commited on children or woman and they say have you seen him cause hes jumped bail  i could never imagine myself calling the police if i was ever in a situation where my children have been hurt.i would take the law into my own hands no problem.

 

I honestly cant believe the amount of perverts that they house next to or near children and we ALL have a right to know if our family will be safe.

 

Perhaps that is why so many Kids are kept indoors through fear when it should be the best times in life growing up.

 

More money should be spent on safe zones for them rather than build monstrous buildings like The Dome in London & the Executive building in Edinburgh.

 

It was tax payers money and the very same people who are keeping their kids home due to the failings of the police and the system in general who LOOSE these monsters when they should be at the very least TAGGED & IMPLANTED with a microchip.

 

If its good enough for our animals to have a microchip passport the it is equally good enough for these other animals so that the police don't loose them to commit and destroy other little lives.


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hammers6.last year i done a visit to a family member at the isle of wight.i was mortified to be told albany prison only houses sick animals now and when ready for release there put into the community of the isle of wight and portsmouth.the reason being the council is given funds from the goverment to give these perverts homes and as much help as they wont to help them adapt to a normal life.when i asked the cab driver is the community informed to there where aboats the answer was no.mums and dads no longer allow children to freely walk around the seaside areas of ryde as this is where they prowl.surpose there never get it right this goverment as most of the mps are all for helping these perverts so what chance do our kids have if they aint got there mums and das to protect them they aint got nobody.i would gladly do a prison sentence for snuffing one of these monsters out if one of my kids were ever harmed.

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Linda with the technology they have at present they should make it MANDATORY for these sicko's not to go near certain areas.

 

They can be monitored as I indicated in my last post:

 

"If its good enough for our animals to have a microchip passport the it is equally good enough for these other animals so that the police don't loose them to commit and destroy other little lives".

 

Did you also know that right now there are more sex offenders in prison than what we would call normal criminals?

 

I have been informed that most of all the English prisons have been taken over by the monsters and some are even forced to mix with them at recreational times?

 

I will try and get the official stats but my source indicates that it is nearly 3/1 with sex offenders being the majority of the prison population.

 

Now if that figure is correct just how many sex offenders are there in jail right now?

 

The Home Office will be getting a call today!


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hammers6.its disgusting i never realised the amount of sex offenders was that high in prisons.im glad to hear that but i would be more intrested to know where there slung to when released.were never win this fight as theyve got so much backing and help from the courts and the police.tagging wont work as there cut it of and just mingle in elsewere.i think they should be castrated and a hand chopped of so people can identify them.i cant walt to see the results of how many sex offenders and child offenders will get the double jeopody treatment.
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hammers6.its disgusting i never realised the amount of sex offenders was that high in prisons.im glad to hear that but i would be more intrested to know where there slung to when released.were never win this fight as theyve got so much backing and help from the courts and the police.tagging wont work as there cut it of and just mingle in elsewere.i think they should be castrated and a hand chopped of so people can identify them.i cant walt to see the results of how many sex offenders and child offenders will get the double jeopody treatment.

I fully agree with your argument Linda and know tagging has flaws although a microchip implant along with the tagging device is the very least the authorities could do.

 

As for the numbers 3/1 they have yet to be confirmed.

 

Great point as where do they send them once they are freed? near a school or playground? Its happened more than once you know.


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Minister examines 'Megan's Law'
John Reid
John Reid will look at the American way of dealing with offenders
A government minister is being sent to the US to examine the Megan's Law system, which deals with sex offenders.

Gerry Sutcliffe is being dispatched by home secretary John Reid, to see how the law works and whether a British version could be introduced.

Under the US system, parents must be informed when offenders move to their area after being freed from prison.

Mr Reid has also decided that paedophiles are to be moved out of probation hostels next to schools.

This decision comes after a newspaper found 60 had been housed, with government approval, at sites near schools.

Mr Reid also hinted he would consider calls for parents to get more information about sex offenders in their area.

In a statement, Mr Reid said his "starting point" was "that information should no longer remain the exclusive preserve of officialdom".

Newspaper campaign

"I'm sending my minister to America to discover the best way of ensuring the controlled release of information to the public," he said.

The News of the World newspaper, which uncovered the hostel details, has led the campaign for a UK version of Megan's law - what it calls Sarah's law - since the murder of eight-year-old schoolgirl Sarah Payne in 2000.

I have instructed that no child sex offenders reside in accommodation directly adjacent to schools
John Reid

Her mother, Sara Payne, said: "After six years of campaigning this is a tremendous breakthrough. I'm delighted."

As part of the US system a number of states list offenders' details on the internet, allowing parents to enter their zip code (post code) or a name, to check if anyone on the register has moved in nearby.

There are about 100 probation hostels in England and Wales where ex-offenders live after their release from prison.

Sarah Payne, murdered by a known paedophile.
Campaigners want a UK version of Megan's Law, called Sarah's Law
They have increasingly been used for high-risk offenders so they can be monitored and supervised more effectively.

However, in March it was revealed that a number of paedophiles were living in hostels close to schools.

The home secretary has now decided this must stop and has instructed the National Offender Management Service to implement "restricted admission" at 11 such hostels.

"I have instructed that no child sex offenders reside in accommodation directly adjacent to schools," Mr Reid said.

'Public confidence'

Mr Sutcliffe told the BBC he would be closely examining the way the law works in the US.

"The balance that we've got to strike is make sure that we look after the public but at the same time, you know, manage these offenders and that's the balance that we're trying to strike.

"But we felt that these premises which were adjacent to schools were too high a risk with child sex offenders in there."

Shadow home secretary David Davis
David Davis has urged caution with the handling of paedophiles

Shadow home secretary David Davis told Andrew Marr on the BBC's Sunday AM programme that ministers should adopt a very careful approach.

"You've got to be very careful in this. Obviously we have to protect the rights and the safety of children - that's paramount," he said.

"But we must almost make sure we don't end up with some lynch mob law. And bear in mind we've had the Criminal Records Bureau failures, with innocent people being given apparent criminal records."

Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Nick Clegg said: "Of course every measure should be taken to protect children from paedophiles, but this should never topple into vigilantism.

"John Reid is proving very adept at capturing headlines, whilst ignoring the difficult decisions that must be taken to provide the most appropriate protection for the public."

'Public safety risk'

The former home secretary, Jack Straw, also urged caution and said lessons learned from other countries were "not necessarily immediately translatable into this country.

John Reid's announcement today is a step in the right direction, but more needs to be done to ensure public protection
Unison general secretary Dave Prentis

Public sector union Unison welcomed Mr Reid's decision but warned of the dangers of relying too much on agency staff.

General secretary Dave Prentis said: "Working with these offenders is a tough job. Public safety will be put at risk if you don't have enough experienced and highly-trained staff to deal with the residents."

The 11 hostels where child sex offenders will not be allowed to stay are: Haworth House, Blackburn; Norfolk Park Hostel, Sheffield; Kirk Lodge, Leicester; St Johns, Leeds; Bunbury House, Ellesmere Port; Elliot House, Birmingham; Camden House, London; McIntyre House, Nuneaton; Wordsworth House, Lincoln; Staitheford House, Stafford; and Luton House


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Castration seems to me to be as good a deterant as any....Cheap to. Instead of three strikes and your out it should be one strike and it's off. Bilko


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Your are spot on Linda! To hell with all this physco-babel nonsense regarding re-educating these vile monsters.


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Your are spot on Linda! To hell with all this physco-babel nonsense regarding re-educating these vile monsters.

If these monsters were serious about change instead of deceit and perversion ......I for one would be all for voluntary castration.....or even F*****G involuntary


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Ah but would castration as much as i'd love it to happen to the f****s actually work, would they not still be as much the monster they are! I say hang the b****ds thats all they deserve! xxma

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Cant argue with that...although H6 will be reading this ........freedom of speech and expression


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Well wen u think about it along the lines o other part o the globe where in places if u steal u get yer hands cut off ect...would be apt to dealing with the problem. Somehow though it's just a waste of time thinking of it as we're thrown in jail for disciplining our own children even, so out the idea o whippin never mind hangin...totally not the issue o this topic i know but it just throws home that we are well n trully f****d in any deterant to these monsters as in a way if they're that evil to do that to children what the hell is jail goin to do to punish these scum, it may hold back till they get out some poor kid being molested but it won't stop the ba***ds gettin their end away..to pass the time...unless a fellow inmate o course takes justice tae hand but that it seems is the only way these f****s get any real just deserves!  ma

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