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frankie

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Thanks for the updates don

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We have strong reason to believe that one such person is making threats to females involved in the campaign and initial investigations suggest he has a history of such behaviour.
 


Not much of a man whoever he is when he`s targeting females I wonder what his reasons could be??? I dont understand anyone who tries to stop the truth coming out especially in a case like this .Love to know what he`s hiding with all these aliases.  


If public Officials are involves then they wont be looking at any info getting out so if we can help here once you have the proof or names then shame them right here. Good luck!

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 Robert Green has now started a blog on this case.

http://holliedemandsjustice-robertgreensblog.blogspot.com/
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 348 days after being charged with Breach of the Peace, Robert Green will appear at Stonehaven Sheriff Court on Wed 26th January for his intermediate diet.

 The BoP charge states that he "did conduct a public campaign of harassment against named persons (alleged paedophiles not questioned by Grampian Police) placing them in a state of fear and alarm for their safety, causing apprehension of a serious public disturbance in Aberdeen and elsewhere in the UK".

 I am no lawyer but even I understand that BoP is an offence which has to cause fear and alarm to the community at large rather than to certain individuals.

 He is also charged with two breaches of bail conditions, one of which is for the heinous offence of "using the internet other than for the sole purpose of contact with friends and family" plus two charges relating to sending messages "that were grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character".

  
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 HAVING GREAT DIFICULTY ACCESING THIS POST ADMIN

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 THE ONLY WAY I COULD VEIW THIS POST WAS TO POST MYSELF??????????????dose that mean NON MEMBERS CAN NOT SEE THESE POSTS (advice please admin)

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Robert Green appeared in Stonehaven Court today.
 
Robert was arrested in Aberdeen in February 2010 as he attempted to distribute leaflets relating to allegations that Downs Syndrome girl Hollie Greig had been the victim of a paedophile gang.
 
In April 2010 he was charged with an alleged breach of his bail conditions.
 
 Today's hearing was a "Reduction to Summary" case, which to the best of my knowledge means that the Procurator Fiscal wishes to change Robert's trial from "Solemn" (decided by a jury) to "Summary" (decided by a Sheriff). The hearing was heard in open court although the Fiscal did not explain why she sought this change in status.
 
 Technically the two outstanding charges against have been dropped and a "de novo" case has been started which consolidates these charges and various others. There are now a total of 5 charges altogether.
 
 The first charge is basically an extension of the original Breach of the Peace charge and claims that between 1 June 2009 and 7 December 2010 at various locations in Aberdeen, Edinburgh and elsewhere, Robert conducted a public campaign of harassment against named persons placing them in a state of fear and alarm for their safety and causing the apprehension of serious public disturbance in Aberdeen and elsewhere in the United Kingdom.
 
 The second and third charges relate to alleged breaches of bail conditions.
 
 The fourth and fifth charges relate to emails sent which were allegedly grossly offensive or of an indecent,obscene or menacing character.
 
 The bulk of the hearing related to a debate on bail conditions. Robert's solicitor, Gerry Sweeney made the point that as this was a "de novo" case the previous bail conditions had lapsed and argued that as the case was being reduced to summary there was no automatic requirement for bail conditions to be applied and argued that as Robert had no criminal record and that he attended todays hearing, at which was cited to appear rather than appearing from custody, then no bail conditions should be applied.
 
 The Fiscal argued that bail conditions identical to those in the previous charges should be applied. She stated that these bail conditions were "for the protection of those impacted by Mr Green's activities". I did not follow the logic of this arguement as my understanding is that Breach of the Peace "is designed to protect the community at large, not guard against an affront to individuals based on their own character."
http://www.lemac.co.uk/resources/guides/Breach_of_the_Peace.htm
 
 The Fiscal stated that the bail conditions she was seeking were "in the public interest" although she did not provide any details of how the interest of the general public would be served. In respect of the bail conditions which require Robert to sign in at Warrington Police Station twice per week she argued that these were necessary to prevent him "sloping off to Aberdeen".
 
Mr Sweeney responded by stating that the bail conditions were totally disproportionate for a summary charge of breach of the peace and likened them to using not just a sledgehammer but a jackhammer to crack a nut. He expressed his dismay and outrage at the language used by the Crown and his view that what was being proposed was fundamentally undemocratic and in breach of Robert's human rights.
 
 In respect of the Crown proposals that Robert should be prevented from both talking about the case and continuing to campaign on the wider Hollie Greig affair , Mr Sweeney used the analogy of a notional person accused of assault who would be prevented from explaining while he was on bail that he had acted in self-defence and would also be prevented from acted in self-defence if he was attacked again while on bail.
 
 The decision of Sheriff Davies was that in addition to standard bail conditions Robert would also be subject to 3 special conditions:
 
1) That he does not approach or contact various named persons
2) That he does not advance or communicate, or cause to be advanced or communicated, allegations similar to those alleged in in the charges
3) That he does not enter Aberdeen City or Aberdeenshire
 
 The unanimous opinion of the members of the public in attendance was that we were all surprised at this decision as it appeared that the arguements put forward by the Defence were much stronger than those put forward by the Crown.
 
 An intermediate diet was set for 13th April and a trial diet set for 6th June. The trial is anticipated to last for 5 days although as it is now a "de novo" case, Robert will have to re-apply for Legal Aid etc which will almost certainly result in a delay. 

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 Don,t know if it still stands but, what about the 110 day time limit on cases been taken, The time waiting to hear what happens to him is a punishment in its self, terrible that anyone can be charged for  HANDING OUT LEAFLETS regarding Paedophiles

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Man banned from area to stand as MSP

CANDIDATE TO CONTEST ABERDEEN SEAT DESPITE ORDER STOPPING HIM ENTERING CITY AND SHIRE

Published: 27/01/2011

A man who is banished from Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire will stand as a candidate for the city in the Scottish elections.

Scotland Against Crooked Lawyers member Robert Green will fight to become MSP for Aberdeen Central in May – despite a court order prohibiting him from entering the city.

Green, 64, campaigns on behalf of the mother of Hollie Greig, 30, a woman with Down’s syndrome who claims she was sexually assaulted by a paedophile ring in Aberdeen.

But two police investigations have found no evidence to support the claims.

In last year’s general election Green stood for the Aberdeen South constituency, polling 138 votes as Anne Begg held the seat for Labour.

Green, of 4 Birchdale Road, Warrington, Cheshire, appeared at Stonehaven Sheriff Court yesterdaywhere his hopes to become an Aberdeen MSP were revealed.

He appeared in court accused of conducting a “campaign of harassment” against a group of individuals who, he claims, were involved with the ring and were complicit in murder.

He is alleged to have sent out letters, leaflets, e-mails, made telephone calls and placed adverts on the internet and in newspapers and been involved in radio broadcasts and internet discussions, stating that nearly 20 people were involved – including a serving Scottish sheriff and a senior Grampian Police officer, who is now dead.

Green is also accused of alleging that evidence and an inquiry have been suppressed. The charge alleges this has caused alarm and upset those named by Green.

The offences are alleged to have taken place between June 1, 2009, and December 7, 2010, in the Ferryhill, Bridge of Don, Bieldside and Woodside areas of Aberdeen as well as in Edinburgh and Warrington. He also faces four breach of bail charges.

He appeared at Stonehaven Sheriff Court yesterday for the latest hearing regarding the charges.

After the hearing, Sheriff Patrick Davies released Green on bail with conditions attached. He is not allowed to have contact with any witnesses in the case or allowed to discuss the allegations he has made about the alleged paedophile ring. A third condition bars him from entering the city or shire.

Representing Green, solicitor advocate Gerald Sweeney said: “To exclude anyone from any part of the UK in case they do anything unlawful goes against everything this court should stand for. His intention is to stand for election as an MSP (in Aberdeen).”

He argued that his client has no criminal record, had attended all court dates and should be freed without bail.

He described the special conditions of bail as “using a jackhammer to crack a nut”.

However, Sheriff Davies attached the three conditions.

Outside court, Green said he would appeal against the decision to not allow him access to Aberdeen.

Green will face trial in June. The trial is expected to last for around five days.



Read more: http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/2109540?UserKey#ixzz1CSGOfZBu


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The decision of Sheriff Davies was that in addition to standard bail conditions Robert would also be subject to 3 special conditions:
 
1) That he does not approach or contact various named persons
2) That he does not advance or communicate, or cause to be advanced or communicated, allegations similar to those alleged in in the charges
3) That he does not enter Aberdeen City or Aberdeenshire

this is something right out the dark ages

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The Link Between Hollie Greig And Shirley McKie

http://holliedemandsjustice-robertgreensblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/link-between-hollie-greig-and-shirley.html
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Both Injustices... Shirley McKie being wrongfully accused bet shes glad she didnt spend the full time behind bars....  


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 An excellent exposure of how the Scottish legal system has been abused in the Hollie Greig/Robert Green case.

 http://the-can-of-worms.blogspot.com/2011/02/dishonest-and-morally-bankrupt-and.html
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 Latest update on this case which is commented on in today's "Scottish Review".

http://holliedemandsjustice-robertgreensblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/case-for-defence-2-hollie-is-being.html
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 The story of the BBC's aborted documentary on the Hollie Greig case.

http://holliedemandsjustice-robertgreensblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/mark-daly-and-bbc.html
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