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Bilko

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Hi Bilko.  Your posts have also been very interesting, giving one an informative aspect from the north of the border.

Cheers Magpie! Bilko


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Hi Bilko... thanks for your posts.  Is there a mutual appreciation society between the Bilkster and our new member Magpie going on that I'm not aware of???  Admin does have a jealous streak you know... Am I saying Magpie's no a bird?  Of course it's a bloody bird, wi yon wing things that ye huv tae salute every time ye see yin - which is a pure bugger when you're driving, having a fag, AND looking daft saluting a single magpie.... bad luck an aw that ye ken...


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Bilko appreciates ALL the members equally.........but (whisperin noo)...hus a wee soft spot fur admin and steeleyma......dont be tellin anybody noo. Bilko


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Shucks Bilko....and the same here,awwww,see admin n i are like clones seperated at birth...,muuuah!!,xxxsteeleyma

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hi magpie,great post,welcome to the site,i will be watching the documentry also,sure was sad about that guy that got shot,the public demand answers from the police,not lies that they keep spinning us.

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You tell them Frankie as we will demand answers and keep demanding them as they are all public servants accountable to us THE PUBLIC!


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Hi to all. Did anyone watch the BBC programme which aired in 2004 about Christopher Alder who died in a Police Station in Hull. The programme had broadcast CCTV video footage of the man dying while the Police looked on. It was shocking. I found this website link http://www.uffc.moonfruit.com   which highlights many cases of this nature including the Harry Stanley and Jean DeMenezes (Stockwell Tube).

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Well spotted Magpie as the more independent corroboration of exactly what is going on down there helps us to fully understand that POLICE CORRUPTION and 'WRONG DOING' are one in the same and is not just a SCOTTISH problem.

 

The sheer neglect of duty is apparent and they should not be in ANY position of public office and should be removed from it very swiftly.


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Extracts from an article in The Times 7th March 2006

 

High-tech help to root out bent police

 

Tom Rowland explains how ultra-secure systems are used by the Independent Police Complaints Commission to ensure that evidence is unassailable

 

HIGH-TECHNOLOGY policing, with its surveillance devices,  traffic cameras and DNA test might be making things hotter for the criminals and is certainly doing little to improve the health of civil liberties in Britain, but the technology has turned out to be a two-edged sword in this respect.

 

The convergence of telecommunications and computing is making it harder for dishonest policemen to get away with falsifying their notes and logs or for them to interfere with investigations into police corruption. The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) was formed in April 2004. Its team of l00 investigators needs to be the ultimate in flexible workers. They frequently have to hot desk in police stations where their presence is resented, on the home turf of opponents who are adept at snooping on their communications. The aim was to try to ensure that the IPCC performance record would exceed that of its discredited predecessor, the Police Complaints Authority. In the past, outside forces conducted investigations into complaints against officers in other constabularies, a practice criticised by Lord Scarman after the Brixton riots as long ago as the1980s.

 

The IPCC website says: “We use our authority and powers unflinchingly to help those who suffer injustice because of an abuse of police powers to obtain redress”.

 

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The Harry Stanley case is one of the most blatant of cover up's involving a fellow Scott who was shot dead by armed police.

 

Are these very same police not taught to aim to wound or disarm? or in some cases use non lethal weapons?

 

my view is that when the police got the call about an IRISH man with a gun the shoot to kill policy was and still is in place anywhere on British soil including The Rock of Gibraltar!

 

PS the latter is a reference to the executions of suspected IRA members many years ago.

 

Adios for a few days and the Rock is not on my list!


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When will they [POLICE] ever learn?

 

Did anyone catch BBC Panorama-Stockwell Tube station SHOOTING. What a disgrace!! An innocent member of the Public MURDERED by the very Service who's responsibility it is to serve and protect the Public.

 

 

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Bilko watched this program, it's an absolute disgrace that this tragedy occurred under the circumstances that it did. The failure on behalf of the police reconnaissance team to recognise that this poor chap was not the man they were after, the suspected terrorist, but an innocent young man going about his business was nothing short of shocking.

 

Watching and listening to the police officer who was interviewed throughout the program would have been hilarious had the subject matter not been so serious. His inability to accept and admit that the Metropolitan police had a shoot to kill policy in place defied belief.

 

Police: "Our aim is to incapacitate any bomber"

 

Interviewer: "You do this by aiming for the suspects head?"

 

Police: "Yes that is correct."

 

Interviewer: "That in effect is a shoot to kill policy"

 

Police: "No, there is no shoot to kill policy, our aim is to incapacitate."

 

Interviewer: "by shooting in the head?"

 

Police: "Yes, that is correct."

 

Interviewer: "So it is in effect a shoot to kill policy?"

 

Police: "No."

 

By this officers statement then we must surmise that being shot by police marksmen seven times in the head will not kill the target, it will incapacitate him. So according to police, young  Jean Charles de Menezes is not dead, he is 'incapacitated'.

 

To add insult to injury officers from Special Branch tried to cover up the fact they had identified the wrong man as being the terrorist by altering the official log of the surveillance operation.

 

STINK!

 

Bilko

 

 

 


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Hi Bilko... thanks for your post - very interesting, very funny and very dangerous.  As you know, anyone who gets shot in the head is a potential fatality and the cop who was under interview must have a vast gap in clear view from one ear hole through to the next. 

 

P.S. They can fool some of the public some of the time, but they can't fool all the public all of the time.


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Too true admin. I am sure this 'vast gap between the ears' admin refers to is now a prerequisite of any candidate wishing to join the force. Without the gap one has simply no chance of ever becoming a police officer. Bilko


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Hi Bilko and all

 

(BBC News Website 8th Mar)

‘Police defend shooting strategy

There is no need to change the strategy police use to deal with suicide bombers despite the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes, senior officers have said.

But the Association of Chief Police Officers, reviewing how the Brazilian was killed, accepted the public needed a clearer explanation of their tactics’.

 

The Public don’t need a clearer explanation (and would certainly never get one from the Police Officer in last night’s Panorama). We know that if one is shot seven times in the head, one is sure going to die. That is a shoot to kill policy!

 

What was further shocking from the Panorama programme was to hear that a target [suspected suicide bomber] does not have to be confirmed as being a suicide bomber i.e. the Police do not have to have confirmation or sight of any suicide belt, weapon etc… and yet they can still Shoot to Kill.

In my opinion and as they do not plan to change their strategy, there will be further innocent victims taken at the hands of the Police like Jean Charles de Menezes (RIP).

 

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