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Who were the other men that were also arrested and sentenced but of a lesser charge in this case?

 

Three pieces of alleged evidence put these innocent guys to twenty years of hell, shame to all of those who would not listen or allow fresh appeals.

 

As for Willie Love - keep trying to kill yourself mate nobody cares.  The day you lie for the police is the day you become scum.

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Shame to ALL police officers who have given 'alleged' evidence, falsified evidence, and indeed, in some of the more recent cases - suppressed vital evidence that would have meant that many cases did not even get to court, and subsequently innocent men would not be suffering in prison as we speak, and the Dunfermline Two would not have had to endure TEN YEARS in prison for a crime they did not commit, much the way TC & Joe Steele spent so long in prison for a heinous crime they did not commit.  The police are a law unto themselves, and if they want you behind bars, then they will go to any lengths in order to do just that. 


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May the wrongfully convicted who have been set FREE find some comfort in their new lives as FREE men and for those who are still in prison wrongfully convicted your day will surely come.

 

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The Moderator fully and unequivocally concurs with Admin2 with a great post.

 

WE OFFER A VOICE TO THOSE WHO HAVE NONE.

 

WE OFFER HOPE TO THOSE WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING.

 

WE OFFER SUPPORT TO THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST.


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The Moderator fully and unequivocally concurs with Admin2 with a great post.

 

WE OFFER A VOICE TO THOSE WHO HAVE NONE.

 

WE OFFER HOPE TO THOSE WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING.

 

WE OFFER SUPPORT TO THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST.

 

Hi Admin2 & Hammer6... thanks for your posts, and as for the above post, I couldn't have put it better myself.


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The Moderator can now confirm that ferrisconspiracy.com will be posting NEW UNPUBLISHED MATERIAL EVERY DAY THIS WEEK IN RELATION TO TC CAMPBELL.

 

We also have an in-depth interview with the man himself and of what he thinks of the JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN SCOTLAND.

 

EXCLUSIVE to  ferrisconspiracy.com


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Hi,

 

Just read the taped interview with Billy Love.  Found some of it confusing due to Billy's way of talking but think i got the just of it.  As much as you could loathe this mans lies in the case of Tommy and Joe you cant help but feel a bit sorry for him because he is also a victim of the corrupt officers, he was the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time he was bribed and blackmailed into telling lies that would turn out to be one of the most major of Miscarriages of Justice in Scotland(dont think he was aware of how famous the story would come to).   In his interview he said he didnt think that Joe and Tommy's sentence would have been as bad as it was.  It's a question of whats wright and whats wrong, how do you determine the two when your trying to save your own back, im sure thats the way he probably looked at it.  But his decision did cost innocent men to go down for something they didnt do and thats something that will lie on Billy's conscience forever.

 

  It would be interesting to find out what Tommy's feelings are towards this man, does he hold contempt or is he glad that he did eventually speak out and tell the truth.  The way I look at it is the corrupt ones would have just bullied and blackmailed some other mug into lying for them.  You can only judge a persons words on what they tell you, whether its fabricated or not, and to me thats the hardest thing in trying to discover the truth.  So has Billy told the complete truth in his interview? is he keeping more things from us about the case?  The only reason I say this is becasue sometimes in his statements he goes of on a tangent as if he goes to say something but changes his mind and says something else, I could be completely misreading it due to his nerves, difficulty in recollecting memories or his effects from taking drugs?  what do other people think??.  You clearly get the impression that he is not fully aware of what exactly the events surrounding his period of questionning were and at the trial, I think the corrupt officers have told him to say that many things that he doesnt even know whats going on.  Its a shame that another persons life has been ruined because of those officers lies.

 

  Its so good that there are stories and new material coming out all the time - love the idea of those filthy scumbags writhing in their chairs reading the true facts of what actually happened all those years ago.  The main point we need to look at here is that when Billy Love swore on oath that he overheard a conversation which involved the implication of Tommy and Joe setting fire to the doyle household was in fact a lie, a lie which Billy has now admitted and shows that one of the most important pieces of evidence in the case put these men down for 20 years was not true. 

 

 Tommy and Joe should have been out years ago and highlights the magnitude and scale of the POLICE CORRUPTION that has protected Tam McGraw throughout all these years.

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This Billy character does go off on a tangent at times in the interview csweeney you are correct, and his way with words makes it hard work to follow his train of thought. I cannot however feel the slightest bit of sympathy toward the man. There are plenty men in prison today i am sure who have been offered the proverbial 30 pieces of silver in return for their charges being dropped if they were to put a bigger fish in the pan so to speak and refused the offer, and are now doing their time like men.

Liars often go off on tangents, it's known as giving themselves time to think, they prattle on about this or that while thinking on their feet. Billy Love has told that many lies its obvious he has trouble realising where the lies end and the truth starts. I give him some credit for eventually stepping forward......but note it was to free his own demonds....not to set justice right and free Tommy and Joe.

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ferrisconspiracy : VIEW

 

Regardless of the cohesion of LOVE'S statement and the sympathy he is seeking it would not be appropriate for any member of our TEAM to try and edit what Love had to say.

 

We keep it REAL and you have read it as it has been transcribed and verified by our legal team of its authenticity as has other material in relation to this HEINOUS CRIME.

 

Let us not forget the OUTRAGE of the PUBLIC at this MASS MURDER nor indeed the POLICE who were investigating it.

 

However it is one thing to solve a crime it is a DISGRACE to engage in a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY by members of STRATHCLYDE POLICE (PAST & PRESENT) to convict innocent men and LOVE'S statement gives us an insight to what went on at that time over two decade ago.

 

This website will continue to UPDATE ALL related matters and our deepest sympathy goes out to the surviving members of the Doyle family.

 

Our aim is to expose the CORRUPT PRACTICES OF SENIOR POLICE OFFICERS and to NAME THEM IN PUBLIC.

 

As Moderator I feel my position on neutrality is at question (SELF) as one feels having had sight of other explosive material we cannot do this debate justice by posting everything at once.

 

Love was a bit part player in this OUTRAGE we want to focus on the victims like the Doyle family. the Campbell family, the Steele family and countless others including the Walker family who may still want answers over why DI NORRIE WALKER committed suicide.

 

As for TC personally he has indicated that he will speak direct to the TEAM on CAMERA regarding how he feels in REAL time (Present) of the last 20 years of his life.

 

We cannot give you the TRUTH only the FACTS its YOU who have to decide what to dismiss and to what you feel is TRUE.

 

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How true hammers words are! Billy love is but a bit player in this outrageously vile attempt by officers within Strathclyde Police Force to prevent justice being done in the Doyle family murder case.

 

The real villians in this ongoing travesty of justice are the officers involved in the pre-scripting and coaching of crown witnesses and the threatening and intimidating of individuals to secure false statements intimating that Thomas Campbell and Joseph Steele were the guilty parties.

 

These so called defenders of justice, maintainers of law and order, for all intents and purposes wrongfully and knowingly fabricated evidence that saw two men spend over twenty years in prison while the REAL guilty parties continued about their business, these are the REAL CRIMINALS in this whole sordid web of police lies and deceit.

 

With each new day though the time draws nearer when justice will this time be done for the Doyle family AND Thomas Cambell and Joseph Steele. Bilko awaits the next installment of these bombshell text documents with great relish!

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I think if one were to digest fully what is contained within the LOVE statement then visit the STRATHCLYDE POLICE post you will note the highlighted sections for their benefit and indeed there is MORE to come........

 

ferrisconspiracy.com pulls no punches we are on a MISSION to demonstrate what went wrong and how this POLICE PRACTICE of CRIMINAL CONSPIRACIES should HALT.

 

Have we learned nothing from this case yet even in light of other INDEPENDENT POLICE CRIMINAL CONSPIRACIES?

 

TIME TO CHANGE? Whats your view?


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Bilko has now read the second instalment of this text document of the taped conversation with Billy Love and i have to say i found the second part just as astonishing as i did the first.

Billy Love in my opinion was well and truly played by the two officers concerned AND the procurator fiscal involved. These two police officers Walker and McKillop used every trick in the book to obtain a statement from Love that was to help crucify Tc Campbell and Joe Steele in court.

Strathclyde Police supplied the wood, the fiscals erected the crosses and Mr Billy Love supplied the nails..... assorted parties then took pleasure in hammering those nails through the limbs of both Tommy and Joe effectively crucifying them for a crime neither commited.....Disgraceful!!

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ferrisconspiracy : VIEW Now you have read matters for yourself what exactly stopped James Freeman (alleged journalist) from making this public after the successful exoneration of TC and Joe Steele when he had a solicitor as a witness?

 

IS he only allowed to FOOL the PUBLIC by PRINTING LIES ABOUT Paul?

At the same time suppressing the TRUTH about the INNOCENCE of TC and Joe Steele?

 

This is no doubt a reflection of his demise from the field of journalism as he already knew before most both men were FITTED-UP.

 

This is our first EXCLUSIVE profile on TC ....................................

 

THERE IS FAR MORE TO COME!


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Billy Love says that the main officer that was doing all the talking and telling him to lie about Tommy and Joe was by the name of Norrie Walker.

 I was reading the Police Section on here at ferrisconspiracy.com and have copied this paragraph:-

 DS Norrie Walker, senior officer in charge of the mass murder case committed suicide four years after the trial and by all accounts was an honest cop who could not live with the burden that the wrong people were accused for the Doyle murders and left behind a suicide note.

 Are these two the same people ?? If so from Love's statement it would appear that Norrie was in fact one of the bad officers as he was telling Billy what to say, or was it that he just regretted his actions after the innocent men were stitched up, or did it in fact mean that Norrie Walker was bullied and made to tell Billy Love to lie??  Sorry bit confused over this one, just want to check?

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For clarification on NORRIE WALKER we never had the LOVE STATEMENTS available at the time but you are correct as this is the same man.

 

Had we known then what we now know there would be a vastly different description of NORRIE WALKER when we uploaded the original material last year.

 

Perhaps we should go back and amend HONEST COP to EXTREMELY DISHONEST COP!

 

Very well spotted and thank you for your post.


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