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Hi If you look at the new post you can read a statement from the man BILLY LOVE who gave the FABRICATED EVIDENCE against TC & Joe Steele.

 

Look at: TC CAMPBELL - LOVE OR HATE?


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Bilko has read this....absolutely mind-blowing disclosures....This is a MUST read item for ALL members!! Bilko
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ferrisconspiracy VIEW on this subject will be posted tomorrow and hope the debate into this sickening affair will yet again expose STRATHCLYDE POLICE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TRIED TO PREVENT THE PUBLIC FROM READING FOR OVER 20 YEARS!

 

Names are named and their is MORE TO COME!

 

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Hi All... I hope that you have all read the new post 'T.C.Campbell - Love or Hate' and found it as mind blowing as I did.  Some explosive material there, no?  I hope you all enjoyed being able to access such exclusive material, and will look forward to members feedback on what they think of the Love statements, so keep the posts coming.


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The following charges laid against TC and others, were as follows:

 

"On 16th April 1984 at the house at 29 Bankend Street, Glasgow, occupied by James Bernard Doyle you THOMAS CAMPBELL, THOMAS CLARK GRAY, JOSEPH STEELE and GARY LANE MOORE did, while acting along with said Joseph Grainger, wilfully set fire to a cupboard door and the entrance door of said house occupied by said James Bernard Doyle and said fire took effect thereon and this you did wilfully and with a criminal disregard for the safety of the occupants of said house and adjacent houses whereby Christine Doyle or Halleron, Anthony Doyle, ages 14 years, Mark Halleron, aged 18 months, James Doyle, Junior, said Andrew Doyle, said James Bernard Doyle, Daniel Doyle, Stephen Bernard Doyle and Lilian Peacock or Doyle sustained severe injuries as a result of said fire and in consequence whereof said Christine Doyle or Halleron, and said Anthony Doyle died as a result of their injuries on 16th April 1984, said Mark Halleron died at the Royal Hospital for Sick Children, Glasgow on 16th April 1984, said James Doyle Junior died at the Royal Infirmary, Glasgow on 17th April 1984, said Andrew Doyle died at said Royal Infirmary on 20th April 1984 and said James Bernard Doyle died at said Royal Infirmary on 24th April 1984 and you did murder said Christine Doyle or Halleron, Anthony Doyle, Mark Halleron, James Doyle Junior, Andrew Doyle and James Bernard Doyle".

 

We now know who did not kill the Doyle family, but the Police and Prosecution to this day know exactly who they are!


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I think seeing these charges here in front of us brings home the stark tragic reality of this terrible tragedy, reading through the names of the victims. God Rest Them.

One can only imagine how it felt for the innocent men involved as they sat looking at these very same charges labelled against them. While knowing they were innocent of ALL charges.

That first day in court as the charges were read out against them must have seemed surreal. I can't get my head around how that must feel, to be in that position.

Then at the end of the trial, to be found guilty, knowing in your heart that the corrupt police officers who's intimidation and self-authoring of witness statements by way of verbal collusion had in effect ensured that erroneous guilty verdict knowing full well you were INNOCENT......Shocking!

These very same police officers were indeed in fact working in earnest to make sure the REAL guilty party (who Bilko firmly believes to be Thomas McGraw) stayed out of harms way, and walked the streets a free man.

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Hi Bilko... thanks for your post.  As indeed it is all the more shocking when you read the charge sheet, and think about the men who were innocent sitting in the dock.

 

ferrisconspiracy.com can only provide the FACTS - we do not set out to shock or to disgust anyone.  It is a matter of personal opinion and feelings towards the way in which we have presented the facts so far.

 

Unfortunately, there are more to come in relation to the way the police handled the case with the rent-a-witness scheme and how the prosecution accepted it on a plate, and the High Court of Judiciary had kept these men incarcerated solely based upon a MASSIVE criminal conspiracy, committed by members of Strathclyde Police, the Procurator Fiscal's Office and the Crown Office themselves.

 

There is no closure here for the Doyle family, and whilst Strathclyde Police are currently investigating other police forces due to the nature of the way certain cases were handled (Shirley McKie), it is with sad irony that Strathclyde Police should have a right good look at themselves first before they start investigating other police forces.

 

Or is it the case that they had hoped what went on with Tommy Campbell & Joe Steele would simply go away?  Unfortunately, it was another MASSIVE error on their part, as we will continue throughout the following weeks to update recent and more relevant information from the man himself, Thomas TC Campbell.  Watch this space....

 

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Todays addition to the 'TC CAMPBELL - LOVE OR HATE' section offers more stunning insight into this blatant miscarriage of justice. There is far too much material for me to fully grasp all the relevant information in one sitting, i will have to look at this time and again over the coming days to fully digest the content.

However let me just say here and now that i found the summing up statement of the trial Judge to be nothing short of disgusting in it's blatant manipulating of the jury toward disregarding the defences view on the dishonesty of the detectives involved in the trial.

This Judge is there to direct the jury on points of law and to maintain order throughout the proceedings. He is not in place to give his opinions to the jury on who he thinks may, or may not be telling the truth in the case. That is a matter entirely for the jury to decide upon themselves....If this is not the case, why in fact bother with a jury at all? The Judge is a disgrace.



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Today's addition to the 'TC CAMPBELL - LOVE OR HATE' section offers more stunning insight into this blatant miscarriage of justice. There is far too much material for me to fully grasp all the relevant information in one sitting, i will have to look at this time and again over the coming days to fully digest the content.

However let me just say here and now that i found the summing up statement of the trial Judge to be nothing short of disgusting in it's blatant manipulating of the jury toward disregarding the defences view on the dishonesty of the detectives involved in the trial.

This Judge is there to direct the jury on points of law and to maintain order throughout the proceedings. He is not in place to give his opinions to the jury on who he thinks may, or may not be telling the truth in the case. That is a matter entirely for the jury to decide upon themselves....If this is not the case, why in fact bother with a jury at all? The Judge is a disgrace.



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Hi Bilko... glad you enjoyed the new material regarding TC & Joe Steele, as I hope all other members do too, but I fully appreciate what you're saying about there being far too much material to digest in one sitting, as it's all very overwhelming.  However, Admin fully concurs with the comments you made regarding the  summing up statement of the trial Judge, but Admin reiterates - THE FIGHT CONTINUES FOR BOTH MEN.


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One of the biggest police forces in Europe has had its fair share of controversy and corruption over the last four decades so what is it doing now in light of fresh criticism over the way in which they handled the case best known as the 'Ice cream Wars' that resulted in the mass murder of six members of the Doyle family and the way they clearly conspired to fabricate two innocent men almost 20 years ago.

Some people say that Strathclyde police are all corrupt but that is simply not the case although WE will concede that corruption within this are was rife during the dark ages of Charlie Craig's reign there were a few honest police still around that could have put a stop to it but did nothing.

Here is what the trial judge said to the jury that sat on the Doyle case in 1984:

'You have the evidence of the detectives themselves to whom these allegations were put and who denied them. You have to choose. It is only if you accept the evidence of the accused and to others whom I have referred that you could agree with Mr Macauley's submission. If you do you must consider what follows is that you are saying that not one or two or four but a large number of detectives have deliberately came here to perjure themselves, to build a false case against an accused person, and they have carried this through right to the end; a conspiracy of the most sinister and serious kind.

 

They have formed this conspiracy to saddle the accused wrongly with the crimes of murder of a horrendous nature. If so, it involves their making up and persisting in a concocted story, concocted statements attributed wrongly, falsely to the accused. Now, what do you prefer, ladies and gentlemen? It is up to you……'
(http://www.highbeam.com)

The prosecution led by Michael Bruce QC, (now Lord Marnoch) sat back and did nothing other than protect his police witnesses and must have been mightily relieved to hear the words of the trial judge:
'Now, what do you prefer, ladies and gentlemen? It is up to you……'

Now with the successful appeal of both Campbell and Steele last year those very same words will come back to haunt not only STRATHCLYDE POLICE who committed whole scale perjury during the trial but also the Crown themselves for allowing it to take place that has become the biggest miscarriage of justice that Scotland has seen to date.

DS Norrie Walker, senior officer in charge of the mass murder case committed suicide four years after the trial and by all accounts was a VERY DISHONEST honest cop who could not live with the burden that the wrong people were accused for the Doyle murders and left behind a suicide note or did he?

His police colleges denied there was a suicide note but that did not prevent the Walker family contacting Campbell to say that he did leave one. I wonder what the contents were?

If Strathclyde police find it hard to issue a formal apology to either Campbell or Steele they should at least consider the Walker family for he too was a victim (DID HE CARRY THE BLAME FOR CHARLIE CRAIG & OTHER POLICE OFFICERS AND COULD NOT LIVE WITH HIS GUILT THAT THE WRONG MEN WERE FITTED-UP?) and what do they now tell the surviving members of the Doyle family?

The worry that I have is that there are more people still held in prison that are innocent and the SCCRC know who they are most importantly so does the police.

People talk of respect on the streets for law and order which is great although the reality is that if the vast majority of the public were aware of what the police have been doing and getting away with would be appalled is there any real great surprise that people don't trust them.

OUR message is simple and clear, WE have nothing to loose or gain only to high light the facts as best we can, its up to you the individual to ask yourself who do YOU want to believe?

If Tony Blair can apologise for the convictions of those who spent decades behind bars wrongfully convicted for the bombing campaigns in London during the 1970s surely Strathclyde police have an easier job on their hands or is there some more sinister reason why they can't do the same? Only they will know the answer to that one.


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As yet both TC Campbell and Joe Steele have had NO APOLOGY FROM the authorities who KNOWINGLY CONSPIRED to find them GUILTY.

 

Was this indeed to save a HIGHLY PRIZED INFORMANT like McGRAW?

One retired officer, who was close to the original investigation, told: "The man behind the Doyle murders was highly prized as a 'grass'.

"There is no question high-ranking officers kept him out of the frame, and fitted up others to take the rap. In those days, fitting up was a way of life.

"If I had to go in the witness box and tell the truth, I'd be sweating. In a fit-up job, we never sweated because it was all planned out before we ever saw the inside of a court."

Confirming the notorious criminal's role in ordering the murders, he said: "He's like the Teflon Don - ruthless, and without any trace of human conscience.

"He has put more guys behind bars than I ever did and I was in the job for more than 20 years.

"He'd turn in rivals to the police one by one until he emerged as a main player.

"His links grew Europe-wide, but every time any attempt was made to catch him red-handed, he mysteriously seemed to know what was coming."

The former cop revealed that the gangster was desperate to remove the Doyle family from the lucrative ice cream routes in Glasgow.

He said: "He was too greedy and a family was wiped out. On the night before the fire, he approached two junkies to start the blaze. They took fright and refused.

"The day after the fire, they got a personal visit and a gun was literally held to their heads until they conveniently suffered amnesia."

 

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Hi Admin2 & Hammer6... thanks for your excellent posts on the topic of 'Who Did Kill The Doyles'.  Fantastic reading, although so tragic that these two men and their families have endured so many years of unnecessary pain and torture. 

 

Originally posted by Hammer6:

 

As yet both TC Campbell and Joe Steele have had NO APOLOGY FROM the authorities who KNOWINGLY CONSPIRED to find them GUILTY.

 

Was this indeed to save a HIGHLY PRIZED INFORMANT like McGRAW?

 

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People use knowledge they obtain from the media to construct a picture of the world, an image of reality on which they base their actions. This process, sometimes called "the social construction of reality," is particularly important in the realm of crime, justice, and the media.


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People use knowledge they obtain from the media to construct a picture of the world, an image of reality on which they base their actions. This process, sometimes called "the social construction of reality," is particularly important in the realm of crime, justice, and the media.

Hi mactheknife... thanks for you post, and excellently put.  I think that many people do use the media as a basis for their opinions, particularly when it comes to such serious issues as crime. It's only unfortunate that much of today's media is dictated and manipulated by those who have the power to do so, and as a direct consequence of that, people tend to believe what they read, thus judging others on what has been printed about them.

 

It's also unfortunate that the picture of the world that people construct from the knowledge they gain through the media, is so often the wrong one.


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(POSTED BY SAMBO)

This case (The Doyle family murders) makes me feel sick at the mention of it, young Tony was my mate aged 14 when he was killed, i don't know how any remaining family members would feel about this all getting brought up again, OK Tommy and TC have been cleared and compensated, the whole world know this was corruption.

 

The true guilty ones will get it some day. Everyone knows of the set ups and corruption of this case and personally i would never like to hear about it again, i know this defeats the purpose of such a site but is this just a personal thing or does anyone else feel this way.

 

(ALSO POSTED BY SAMBO)

 

Point taken hammer, Hang the coppers and McGraw (The murderer) that's never going to happen, its just always been an uneasy thing to hate Tommy and TC for so long for this, then find out it was a fit up, I don't hate them now but would still find it hard to ever eyeball them in public, sorry Tommy and TC the forces of evil made me hate you's for 20 years just so that they could be seen to be efficient in this case.

 

The coppers know who they are McGraw knows what he done. ROT IN HELL SCUM. eternal justice will do me fine.


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