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A Macabre Reminder of Bundy


(Many true crime junkies remember Snitch, the great but short-lived crime rag. I've already pinched one piece from the pages of Snitch for Clews. Now Kentucky true crime writer Kevin Sullivan has kindly agreed to share a piece he first wrote for Snitch after he met Retired Det. Jerry Thompson, the famous homicide investigator from Utah who first connected Bundy and his VW to several murders. Kevin is also working on a book about Ted Bundy; there's more to say about him, he says. In this essay, Kevin details an interesting item he came across in his research.)

At approximately 9:30, on the evening of May 30, 2005, in what were the waning hours of Memorial Day night, I phoned my wife from my car, and excitedly asked her to move any and all items from our dining room table. I then informed her that I was “bringing the gym bag home with me and I’ll have it for at least an hour”.

My wife, of course, already knew about the bag from my conversation the previous night, when I first laid eyes upon it, handled its contents, and entered into what you might call a mild, but shocked sense of exhilaration that was to stay with me for the next several days.

For you see, what I was gazing upon was not some ordinary gym bag belonging to any ordinary person. No, the bag in question-and all of its contents-were once the property of Ted Bundy, perhaps the most infamous and prolific serial killer to ever roam the cities, highways, and woods of North America.

And so as I stared at this old, and somewhat dry rotted leather bag lying next to me in the passenger seat, I was struck by how unusual a situation this was I was now finding myself in. After all, here I was driving through the darkened streets of the Hikes Point area of eastern Louisville, heading for my home, with the very bag Ted Bundy carried during his murder spree.

Indeed, by the time he was arrested in August of 1975, he had murdered at least 19 women in various states. But I’m getting a little ahead of myself.

This story actually began several weeks earlier when my friend Jim Massie, a probation and parole officer for the state of Kentucky, telephoned me with the news that Jerry Thompson was coming to town for several days, and would I like to have dinner with them. I immediately said yes, of course, for I had known for many years that Jerry Thompson was not just a homicide detective with the Salt Lake County Sheriffs department, but was instrumental in linking Ted Bundy with serial murder after he had been arrested on suspicion of burglary in his August 1975 arrest in Granger, Utah.

It was at this time that Bundy forever lost his gym bag, which in actuality was his murder kit. Yet neither I nor Jim had any idea what Detective Thompson would be bringing to Louisville. However, we would soon find out. On late Sunday afternoon, May 29th, Jim called my cell phone to let me know that the Thompsons had arrived at the Breckinridge Inn, and wanted just a little time to freshen-up for dinner.

Then he said to me, “He brought the bag.”

“What bag?” I said.

“The bag Bundy carried…I have it with me now in my truck.”

And then it hit me: I remembered Jim telling me years earlier how Detective Thompson had Bundy’s personal items that were in his car when he was arrested; items such as a ski mask, an ice pick, rope, a flash light and other things as well.

Astonished, I asked he if he would mind meeting me a few minutes before the Thompsons were due to arrive at the restaurant. Jim agreed, and within 10 minutes we were standing in the parking lot of the Golden Corral.

While Jim gingerly removed the brown, musty smelling gym bag from the clear plastic bag just large enough to cover it, I stood there like a child waiting to see what was inside. Slowly, we begin to remove each item: a ski mask, a white rope, an ice pick, a woman’s belt (no doubt belonging to one of the murdered girls), individual white strips of cloth Bundy had pre-cut for binding the hands and feet of his victims. There were also two right-handed mismatched gloves, one the “puffy” ski type (blue/black) and the other woolen, and beige in color. There was also an opened box of Glad trash bags.

Jim, who has done extensive research into the Bundy case, and has provided important information which was used in Dr. Ronald Holmes’ excellent book, Serial Murder, looked surprised when he saw the trash bags, and immediately launched into how Bundy would use the bags to hold the women’s clothing only, while the nude bodies were discarded in another location.

The trash bags containing the clothes were always dumped at another site far from where the victims were placed. After dinner, we returned to the Breckinridge Inn, were for almost two hours, Jim, Jerry and myself discussed the Bundy case in detail. When I mentioned having seen the bag, I asked him to tell me the story behind it.

Of course, as lead homicide investigator, he has had possession of the bag for almost 30 years now. However, at some point in time, probably in the late 1970’s, he signed an affidavit stating that he would use the bag and its contents strictly for the purposes of teaching. The only two items the courts refused to release were the crowbar and the handcuffs. Bundy’s VW bug was sold at auction sometime in the 1980’s. The individual who purchased Bundy’s car apparently had plans to capitalize on its infamous history.

As I stated earlier, Jim was allowed to keep the gym bag for about 48 hours, and so, he allowed me to bring it to my house on Memorial Day night.

Now, let us return to that most surreal experience. As I entered the house, I walked briskly and directly to the dining room. As I passed through the house I asked my son if his mom had told him that I was bringing Ted Bundy’s stuff into the house? He said no, and looked at me like I had three heads.

I quickly enlisted my daughter Sarah as my helper for arranging the items to be photographed; and in fact, she would be responsible for taking the pictures. One by one, we laid out the items; the ski mask, ice pick, rope, flashlight, the FBI tagged strips of cloth Bundy had pre-cut, a women’s belt, the Glad box with the trash bags, and the two right-handed gloves. We also found six or seven small evidence tins with clear tops and evidence tape sealing them. Each contained either pubic hair or hair from the head of several of the murdered women, as well as the head hair of Carol DaRonch, the only known Bundy victim who was able to escape from one of his savage attacks. These hair samples had been obtained from the VW bug.

As we walked around the dining room table, Sarah snapping pictures as I pointed out various things, I remember thinking how very few people in this nation have ever seen these things, much less handled them. And here I was, in my own home, without a detective or museum curator standing over my shoulder giving instructions on what I can and cannot do.

After packing everything into the gym bag, I noticed several small pieces of the dry rotted bag had fallen off onto the table, as did a tiny section of the Glad box. Feeling it would be stupid to just throw these insignificant bits back into the bag, I scooped them up and placed them in a sandwich bag for safe keeping. Little did I know that I had something even better coming the next day.

On Tuesday evening, Jim and I met at the Breckinridge Inn, to say good bye to the Thompsons, as they would be leaving early the next day. As we stood around our cars in the front parking lot, snapping pictures, and discussing Retired Detective Thompson’s most famous case, he offered to give us each one of the green trash bags that had been sitting in Bundy’s gym bag since the night of his arrest. When I heard this I was speechless.

True, it is a macabre reminder of what this evil man did, but it is also a part of history. After thanking him profusely, I asked him if he would mind writing a letter of authentication and this he did willingly. Once again, I was feeling a sense of shock to have such an item come into my possession. It had been a very interesting three days, three days that I will never forget. And I consider it an honor to have met Detective Jerry Thompson. And for those readers who might be wondering whether or not I tried on the ski mask, well, I did!

One of these days.....

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And for those readers who might be wondering whether or not I tried on the ski mask, well, I did!   

you would wouldnt you?? well i know i would..great post max any more??

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World's worst killers...

Andrei Chikatilo Chikatilo was Russia's number one serial killer...

A Colombian man's admission to the murder and torture of 140 children has again put the spotlight on the gruesome history of mass killers.

Since Jack The Ripper, criminologists say there have been about 100 known cases of serial killers around the world, including one of modern history's worst murderers - Pedro Alonso Lopez, known as Monster of the Andes.

Anatoly Onoprienko 'Terminator' Onoprienko wanted to be the most notorious killer...

Lopez is thought to have butchered more than 300 young girls in Colombia, Peru and Ecuador throughout the late 1970s and early 80s.

He was arrested in 1980 but was freed by the government in Ecuador at the end of last year and deported to Colombia. In an interview from his prison cell, he described himself as "the man of the century" and said he was being released for "good behaviour".

Other serial killers to get close to Lopez's horrific tally of victims were the Americans Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole, and HH Holmes, who killed more than 200.

Lucas, a one-eyed drifter from Texas and Toole, who had a taste for human flesh, killed anyone who crossed their paths, with a preference for picking up hitchhikers. They are known to have killed more than 200 people between the mid-1970s and mid-80s.

Holmes built a massive mansion, complete with trap doors, acid vats, lime pits and gas chambers, with money he made from a drugstore empire he built in Chicago.

'Torture castle'

During the 1893 World's Fair in the city, he rented rooms to visitors, then killed them to try to collect on their insurance policies.

Fred West Fred West is one of Britain's most notorious mass murderers...

He also lured women to his "torture castle" with promises of marriage but would kill them after they signed over their life savings to him. He was hanged in 1896.

Sisters Delfina and Maria de Jesus Gonzales, owners of a Mexican brothel, killed prostitutes they recruited and an unknown number of clients.

They were arrested and later sentenced to 40 years in 1964, after police found the bodies of 91 people following a raided on the bordello.

True vampire

Another notorious female mass murderer was Hungarian Erzebet Bathory who carried out a reign of terror in the 16th century. Known as the blood countess, she tortured and murdered more than 600 victims from her family estate in Transylvania.

One method of killing victims was to strip them and lie them down in the snow in winter and then pour water over them until they froze.

She is considered to be a true vampire because she bathed in the blood of some of her victims, believing it would keep her skin looking youthful.

Russia's premier serial killer this century was Andrei Chikatilo, who killed 53 women and children in a prolonged campaign of serial murder which began in 1978.

Gruesome evidence

Chikatilo, who grew up believing his older brother been kidnapped and cannibalised, during the great Ukrainian famine of the early 1930s, mutilated some of his victims by gnawing at them.

Just failing to match this tally was Ukranian Anatoly Onoprienko, who was nicknamed the terminator by the police. He confessed to 52 murders.

One hundred volumes of gruesome evidence were presented at the trial last November.

He issued a press release from his prison cell saying he had wanted to hold the world record for killing.

Lethal injection

German Bruno Ludke, who killed at least 80 people, mainly women, began his 15-year killing spree in 1928.

Declared insane, he was sent to a Vienna hospital, where experiments were carried out on him until he died by lethal injection in 1944.

During World War II, Frenchman Marcel Petiot built a sound-proof home in which he killed up to 63 people.

He claimed he was a member of the French Resistance and told his victims, who were mainly Jews and others escaping from the Nazis, that he could arrange for a safe passage out of the country for a fee.

But after receiving the money, he gave them a lethal injection pretending to given them a "vaccination against foreign diseases".

In 1944 police investigated Petiot's home due to the stench of burnt corpses. He was found guilty and died by the guillotine in 1946.

Fred and Rose West are two of Britain's most notorious serial killers. Fred, who hanged himself in Birmingham's Winson Green prison on New Year's Day 1995, killed 13 women and girls - including his first wife and two of his daughters - in Gloucester and nearby Much Marcle between 1968 and 1987.

His wife, who is serving a life sentence in London's Holloway prison, was convicted of 10 of the murders.

Australia's two most prolific convicted serial killers are James Miller, who raped and murdered seven women in the 1970s, and Ivan Milat, the notorious "backpack" murderer, who killed seven tourists and buried their bodies in the bush outside Sydney.

But in May this year, Australian police charged three people with murder after finding human remains in a disused bank vault.

Another two were found buried in the garden of an Adelaide house. Police say they suspect the motive for the murders was a welfare fraud.

Hannibal link

Pietro Pacciani, the Monster of Florence, was convicted in 1994 of murdering eight couples in lovers' lanes near Florence, between 1968 and 1985.

Pacciani was given 16 life sentences but was freed on appeal in 1996 and died of a heart attack in February 1998 while awaiting a retrial.

Thomas Harris, author of blockbusters The Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal attended the trial of Pacciani, where he sat and studiously made notes.

The fruits of his research appear in Hannibal, with references to "Il Mostro".

The TRUTH is out there...........

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Chessboard killer convicted of 48 murders...


                              Chessboard killer: Murder is like love .
Alexander Pichushkin...


A Russian serial killer who invited his victims to drink vodka with him before bludgeoning them to death with a hammer has been convicted of 48 counts of murder after a trial that shocked and entranced a nation.

Alexander Pichushkin, a supermarket porter better known in the Russian press as "the chessboard killer", sat in silence as a jury foreman read out 48 successive and unanimous guilty verdicts.

  • Dressed in a grey V-necked jumper, the 33-year-old showed no emotion and no remorse as a judge confirmed the verdicts and ruled that there were no mitigating circumstances - a pronouncement that means Pichushkin almost certainly faces life in prison.

    Pichushkin, who never denied the murders but refused to enter a plea, can have expected nothing less.

    For him, psychiatrists said, the real punishment came from being denied the title of Russia’s most prolific serial killer.

    At the beginning of his trial the trial, Pichushkin complained of unfair treatment at being charged with only 48 murders. In fact, he claimed, he had killed 63 - 13 more than Andrei Chikatilo, known as the "Rostov Ripper", who was convicted of 50 murders in a 1992 trial.

    Russians have watched the chessboard killer pacing up and down his glass box with a mixture of revulsion and horror, a fascination that began with a confession broadcast on national television last year.

    Pichushkin never hid his craving to kill. "A life without murders was like a life without food," he said in the confession.

    Pichushkin got his first taste of murder in 1992, when, aged only 18, he strangled a school friend and threw him out of the window.

    "A first killing is like your first love," he told the jury. "You never forget it."

    For 13 years, the murders stopped. Then, inexplicably, Pichushkin embarked on an intensive killing spree in Moscow’s Bitsevsky Park.

    This time, he killed those unknown to him, mainly elderly alcoholics that he befriended outside his local tube station by offering to share a bottle of vodka with them.

    Many were lured to a remote corner of the park, where Pichushkin claimed his dog was buried and where he liked to drink in its memory. Some he tossed into sewage pits, others he strangled, but most were killed by frenzied blows to their heads with a hammer.

    To make sure they were dead, he would place the vodka bottle in their shattered skulls. After his work was finished, he would return to his flat and record his latest murder by placing a coin on a chessboard.

    When he was eventually detained, police found that 63 of the 64 squares had been filled in. Investigators, however, have only found 48 bodies.

    Three of his victims escaped, including a 19-year-old woman who trod water for an hour in a 20-foot deep sewage pit before managing to clamber up its slippery sides.

    When at home, he successfully kept up a pretence of being a normal man. Neighbours described him as quiet, gentle and fond of animals. He was eventually arrested after committing his last murder.

    The victim, a female co-worker, had left a message with friends to say she had gone for a walk with Pichushkin.

    The killer said he was aware of the message and the risk of getting caught but said he was unable to stop himself because "the mood was already on him."

    Like his first victim, his last was a close friend.


    Alexander Pichushkin had hoped to become Russia's most prolific serial killer, passing Andrei Chikatilo who murdered and cannibalised 52 women and children in 1992. But both men are dwarfed in the scale of their evil by these men:

    Pedro Lopez...

    A Colombian known as the Monster of the Andes, he confessed to killing 300 people, many of whom were young girls, across South America. Convicted in Ecuador in 1980, he was released from prison in 1998 and is still free.


    Harold Shipman...

    The English doctor is now thought to have killed around 250 elderly women while working as a GP. He committed suicide in prison in 2004 while serving 15 life terms.


    Hu Wanlin...

    An unlicensed Chinese doctor, he is thought to have killed his victims using home-made herbal medicines. He was arrested in 1999 in connection with 146 deaths, but is thought to have killed many more. Currently serving a 15 year jail term.


    Luis Alfredo Gavarito...

    Another Colombian, known as The Beast, Gavarito admitted raping and murdering 140 young boys. Arrested in 1999 he is currently serving a maximum 30 year term. Maps he has drawn while in prison - apparently showing the locations of unknown victims' bodies - suggest he may have been responsible for more than 300 killings.


    Donald Henry 'Pee Wee' Gaskins...

    Thought to be America's most prolific serial killer, Gaskins was executed in 1991. He is believed to have killed between 100 and 200 people - both acquaintances and strangers - many of whom he picked up while driving along quiet coastal roads.

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    Sex killer linked to murders of ELEVEN young women after skeleton is found in his garden

    A skeleton has been found at the former home of a convicted sex killer who is now feared to have murdered at least 11 young women.

    Met officers are helping Kent police in the search after the discovery in the back garden of a house in Margate. The remains are believed to be those of 18-year-old Dinah McNicol who disappeared on 4 August 1991.

    The terrace house in Irvine Drive was once the home of Peter Tobin, 61, who is serving life for raping and killing 23-year-old Polish student Angelika Kluk in 2006. He buried her body in a Glasgow church.

    Police now suspect that he killed at least 10 other women as he travelled across Britain working as an odd job man.

    Today Dinah's father Ian, 68, said: "I want an ending - be it happy or unhappy. Ninety-nine per cent of me thinks she has been murdered but there's just that one per cent that doesn't know."

    The jazz musician from Tillingham in Essex, added: "I want to die in peace knowing what happened to my daughter."

    A post mortem examination on the skeleton will take place later this week.

    Tobin has already been charged over the disappearance of 15-year-old Vicky Hamilton, who, like Dinah, went missing 16 years ago. Vicky's DNA was on a knife found in the loft of his former home in Edinburgh, close to where she was last seen.

    Dinah, a student who was planning to go to university, went missing as she hitchhiked from a music festival in Liphook, Hampshire.

    She was last seen in a car with a man. The car and driver were never traced. Her cash card was used repeatedly in Sussex and Hampshire later that month, each time to withdraw £250. She had saved up £2,000 to go travelling.

    Police have been reviewing files, focusing on unsolved cases where young women vanished close to where Tobin lived or travelled.

    Detectives have also looked at whether Tobin could be linked to the disappearance of Genette Tate, 13, who was last seen near her Devon village of Aylesbeare in 1978.

    A police source said: "We fear Tobin may have struck before. It is highly unusual for a vicious killer to commit a stranger murder in his sixties."

    Last month police searched a flat in Southsea, Portsmouth, where Tobin lived when Vicky Hamilton disappeared. She was last seen as she set off to travel home to Scotland.

    As well as stripping the house and ripping up floorboards, forensic teams used specialist radar equipment to see what was beneath the property and also searched a pond in a nearby nature reserve.

    Forensic teams moved into the house in Margate at 8am yesterday and found the skeleton within 12 hours.

    Neighbour Nicola Rose, 36, said: "When I saw the tape I thought someone had been murdered in the alleyway.

    "I asked police what had happened and then a police officer gave me a letter explaining that they were hunting for the body of a girl who went missing 16 years ago and that they had information that her body was in this house or buried in the garden. It's quite a shock to think that there might a body buried in next door's garden."

    As the search began, Detective Superintendent Tim Wills of Essex police stressed that the family living there for the last 12 years were not suspects. He said: "They have been put into temporary accommodation for the next two weeks while we search the house and gardens."

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    This vile monster has committed far more murders than anyone fully understands!
    A police source said: "We fear Tobin may have struck before. It is highly unusual for a vicious killer to commit a stranger murder in his sixties."

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    Hi max  totally agree with you as this latest case may well be just the tip of the iceberg............

    Tobin is thought to look
    like Bible John


    Police probe link to Bible John killings.

    DETECTIVES across the UK have been investigating Peter Tobin over a series of unsolved murders - including the Bible John killings in Glasgow.

    The 61-year-old has been questioned by forces from several areas over recent months.

    In May, police revealed they were to compare Tobin's DNA with samples taken from the third victim of Bible John.

    Bible John stalked Glasgow's Barrowland dance hall in the late 1960s and it was there he met his victims.

    Tobin was 21 at the time and was known to visit city dance halls.

    With a strong resemblance to the artist's impression of Bible John, Tobin was believed to have left Glasgow shortly after the killings stopped.

    The Margate police operation is the latest in a series of searches of Tobin's former homes.

    Detectives reopened their inquiry into Dinah McNicol's death last week after information led them to the Margate house.

    Police are believed to be investigating whether Tobin is linked to a series of other unsolved murders and abductions of women.

    Other cases thought to be under review include the so-called Babes in the Wood murder 20 years ago.

    Karen Hadaway, 10, and Nicola Fellows, 9, were strangled in Wild Park, Brighton, in 1986.

    Also being investigated is the disappearance of Jessie Earl, 22, from a bedsit in Eastbourne, Sussex, in May 1980, and the murder of Patsy Morris, 14, who was found dead after leaving her school playground in west London, in June 1990.


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    This vile monster has committed far more murders than anyone fully understands!
    A police source said: "We fear Tobin may have struck before. It is highly unusual for a vicious killer to commit a stranger murder in his sixties."

    So unfortunately accurate max

    Father's relief as Dinah's body is found after 16 years

    A second body has been discovered at the house where police found the remains of Vicky Hamilton.

    Officers last night said the height, clothing and jewellery were "consistent" with those of 18-year-old Dinah McNicol.

    They said her father had been informed, although formal identification had not yet taken place - and revealed that they expect to find more bodies at the house in Margate, Kent.

    The discovery came the day after 61-year-old Peter Tobin appeared at Linlithgow Sheriff Court charged with the murder of 15-year-old Vicky Hamilton.

    Her body was found on Monday, buried under a sandpit in the back garden of the terraced house.

    Last night, a source close to the inquiry warned: "There is every possibility that other human remains will be found."

    Forensic teams will work throughout the weekend, concentrating on ten "hot spots" where ground-penetrating radar showed signs of "disturbance".

    The grim search has spread inside the seaside home, while detectives urgently carry out checks on other missing girls.

    After a post-mortem examination on the new body found it to be "consistent" with Dinah McNicol, her father Ian said he hoped it was his daughter.

    Father-of-six Mr McNicol said: "I will be absolutely elated if they have found her.

    "It will mean we will be able to grieve as a family, to be able to bury her or cremate her properly and go through the normal grieving process.

    "It has been a long wait. I can now die in peace if it is her. I believe it is her. We can have time to mourn now and get on with our lives.

    "It's a very strange feeling. I'm elated and confused.'

    Jazz musician Mr McNicol, whose wife Judy died in a car accident in 1980, said he had suffered 16 years of "absolute hell" waiting to discover what had happened to his daughter.

    He added: "I'm 68 now and I haven't got long left because of this. I desperately want to lay Dinah to rest before my time comes.

    "I have known in my heart for years that she is dead but without a body you are always left wondering. It is horrific.

    "I don't know how the police ended up going to that house in the first place. It's a fantastic bit of police work if they have found her."

    News of a second body emerged just before 2pm, after police had lifted the patio behind the house.

    The human remains were carried out on a stretcher covered by a black drape to a private ambulance. They were taken to the mortuary at The Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother Hospital in Margate.

    Detective Superintendent Tim Wills of Essex Police said: "There has been a significant discovery here at 50 Irvine Drive. Another body has been found. We are arranging for the body to have a post-mortem locally. Ian McNicol has been informed of the discovery."

    Before the discovery of the second body, Essex Police senior press officer Kim Perks said: "We have now searched two-thirds of the back garden and we have also completed raising the patio and we are now searching under the patio.

    "We are using a jack-hammer to search beneath a concrete base where the two sheds were in the garden. We are also searching inside the house with a ground-penetration radar. The ground floor has a concrete base.

    "We are looking for any disturbances in this concrete flooring or any variances in the soil in different parts of the garden.

    "There are up to ten new hot spots which we have identified already as being disturbances. We have had hot spots before - some have been nothing, but one resulted in the discovery of the body of Vicky Hamilton."

    She added: "We have also had a preliminary look around upstairs and in the loft. We are prioritising our search areas."

    Both Dinah and Vicky disappeared in 1991. Vicky vanished on February 10 as she headed home by bus from Livingston, West Lothian, where she had spent the weekend with her sister. She had to change buses at Bathgate for her home near Falkirk and was last seen sitting on a bench eating a bag of chips.

    The disappearance sparked one of Scotland's biggest missing person inquiries. The case was reopened last November as a murder investigation.

    Dinah, from Tillingham, Essex, disappeared six months after Vicky. She had finished her A-levels and was looking forward to university.

    The tiny, 4ft 10in teenager had gone with friends to a summer music festival in Liphook, Hampshire and met a man there.

    The couple hitched a lift home together and were picked up by a motorist, who dropped Dinah's new male friend off at Junction 8 of the M25 near Reigate, Surrey, and drove off with the teenage girl.

    She never returned home and has not been seen since, despite several national appeals.

    There have been 450 "sightings" of Dinah over the years, but every one turned out to be false.

    Police issued a new picture of Dinah earlier this week which showed her wearing a brown leather necklace with leather beads, similar to the one she was wearing at the music festival.

    Before the first human remains discovered were found to be Vicky's, Mr McNicol said: "I want an ending, be it happy or unhappy. I need to know, one way or the other."

    Stunned neighbours in Margate yesterday spoke of their shock at the discovery of a second body.

    Patricia Owen, 48, said: "Oh my God, this is awful. I have been praying every night this week that no one else would be found there.

    "I just can't believe they have found another body there. It's horrifying to think what happened in that house, really terrifying. Who knows how many bodies the police will find there?"

    Bethany Jenkins, 28, said: "It's incredible to think all this is happening so close to my home. I've got two young children. This has chilled me to the bone.

    "I really do feel sick with it all. It's worse than a horror film. I want to move away from here now."

    Tobin's first wife, Margaret Mackintosh, said she was distressed by the discovery of a second body.

    She said: "I don't know where this is all going to end."


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    Police investigating the discovery of two bodies at a house in Margate fear that they will uncover a trail of bodies hidden at up to 20 homes the suspected killer has lived in during the past 40 years.


    Specialists have drilled through the floors at his former home in Kent, where the remains of Vicky Hamilton, 15, and Dinah McNicol, 18, were found buried in the garden.

    Every police force in the country is carrying out a "cold case" review of missing persons and murders. While there is no definitive list of names, detectives are concentrating on the deaths of up to 15 more women since the 1960s.

    The surprise discovery of Miss Hamilton's body in Margate - more than 490 miles away from where she disappeared in 1991 - has shocked detectives and "opened up all possibilities".

    Sources said last night that the former owner of the home was a "viable suspect" in the disappearance of Genette Tate in Devon in 1978, Britain's longest missing person case.

    As they piece together his past, detectives will search up to 20 properties linked to the man, who worked as an occasional chef.

    He has lived in Scotland and along the south coast of England, and spent long periods travelling by car, travelling from town to town as a "freelance lagger".

    Addresses in London, Brighton, Portsmouth, Glasgow and Paisley will be searched and may be dug up if specialists detect any signs of "disturbance".

    Forensic archaeologists are continuing to search the Margate property.

    They have found 10 "hotspots" where search teams' equipment, including ground-penetrating radar, has picked up "disturbances" in the fabric of the house. They may only be the result of home improvements, but two have yielded results. Police will this week continue to search the ground floor, bedrooms, and loft of 50 Irvine Drive.

    Forensic psychologists are convinced there will be other victims.

    Professor Kevin Brown, of Liverpool University, said: "If offenders like this are not caught, the crimes escalate."

    Vicky Hamilton and Dinah McNicol
    The remains of Vicky Hamilton [left] and Dinah McNicol were found in the house in Margate

    Sources have revealed that one key case they are "scoping" is that of Genette Tate, 13, who disappeared on Saturday, August 19, 1978, during a paper round in her Devon village of Aylesbeare.

    The first witnesses at the scene were there so quickly that the wheels of the 13-year-old's bike were still spinning as it lay on the ground. However, no one saw Genette being attacked or driven away and no trace of the Devon schoolgirl has ever been found.

    Finding the remains of Miss McNicol, who was last seen hitchhiking from a music festival from Hampshire in 1991, has alerted police to two notorious murders 21 years earlier.


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    • Published Date: 15 November 2007
    • Location: Falkirk

    Vicky find lays to rest a 16-year mystery

    Vicky Hamilton
    Vicky Hamilton
    A MAN has been charged with the murder of Vicky Hamilton.
    The body of the missing Falkirk schoolgirl was found last week — hundreds of miles from where she was last seen.

    Her remains were discovered in the back garden of a house in Margate in Kent on Monday by detectives investigating the disappearance of another young girl.

    Yesterday (Wednesday) Lothian and Borders Police confirmed the tragic news. A spokesman added: "A man arrested in July 2007 has been charged in connection with the disappearance of Vicky Hamilton and a report submitted to the Procurator Fiscal."

    Peter Tobin appeared in private at Linlithgow Sheriff Court on Thursday.

    Vicky, from Ward Avenue in Redding, was just 15 when she went missing on February 10, 1991.

    The popular Graeme High School pupil had spent the weekend with her sister Sharon in Livingston and last seen in Bathgate waiting for a bus back to Falkirk.

    Staff at a nearby chip shop saw her eating a bag of chips. When they looked again 15 minutes later she had vanished. A few days later her black leather purse was found in a waste bin near the St Andrew's Square bus station in Edinburgh.

    A massive hunt involving 200 officers from Lothian and Borders Police was launched. Over 7000 people were interviewed and 4000 statments taken. A girl closely resembling Vicky was even used in a reconstruction of her last movements, but no trace of the youngster was ever found.

    Her disappearance shattered her mum Janette who died two years later, just days after her 42nd birthday, never knowing what had become of her daughter.

    Sharon Hamilton, who now lives in Falkirk, has always believed Vicky was murdered, but it was not until November last year police announced they were treating the case as a murder inquiry as there was no evidence to suggest she was still alive.

    She said: "I don't think she ran away from home, she just wasn't the type that would do that. Vicky was just a 15-year-old schoolgirl and not a confident person outside her usual environment. The night I walked her to the bus stop I had to tell her over and over again what bus she would take to Falkirk she was so unsure."

    Vicky's details were filed on the UK's Missing Persons website which is linked to similar websites across the world. Posters with her picture appealing for help to trace her were also distributed nationwide.

    In May this year a house in Bathgate was searched and police refused to rule out that DNA found belonged to her.

    Last night (Wednesday) Vicky's father, Michael, was unavailable at his Westquarter home.

    Only recently he spoke about the "16 years of torment" he and his family have gone through.

    In a heartfelt plea he said: "We are looking for some closure so we can finally move on. The last 16 years have been torture.

    ''We've accepted Vicky is dead and now just want the matter resolved once and for all."

    Graeme High acting headteacher Kenny Duncan said this week: "Vicky's disappearance was a tragedy for her family and friends, as well as her school and local community.

    "Everyone who was a part of Graeme High during Vicky's years here will saddened by the news, but will take comfort from the fact that her family can now grieve for her."

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    A pig farmer was yesterday found guilty of murdering six prostitutes on his property outside Vancouver in Canada's worst serial murder case.

    The mother of Andrea Joesbury outside court as Robert Pickton is found guilty of serial murder
    The mother of one of Robert Pickton's victims reacts outside court after the guilty veredict

    Robert 'Willie' Pickton, 58, was convicted of second degree murder in the deaths of the women whose butchered remains he fed to his pigs rather than the first degree murder charge he originally faced. He will still receive a life sentence but the lesser verdict makes it easier for him to get parole after 10 years.

    He also faces additional murder charges in relation to the deaths of 20 other women, mainly prostitutes and drug addict from a run-down area of Vancouver. No date for this trial has been set.

    While the defence acknowledged that the remains of the six women - Mona Wilson, Sereena Abotsway, Marnie Frey, Brenda Wolfe, Andrea Joesbury and Georgina Papin - were found on Pickton's farm, it denied he was responsible for the deaths and said police ignored other suspects.

    As the verdict was announced, Pickton, who sat out the trial behind bulletproof glass, listened with his head bowed. Two women jurors on the panel of seven men and five women, who deliberated for 10 days, wiped tears from their eye.

    Some relatives of the victims protested the second degree murder verdict, which means the jury rejected prosecution claims the deaths were planned.

    "It should have been first degree," said Rick Frey, father of Marnie Frey. "You don't have six murders over that time and not have first degree."

    Family members and friends sobbed as the verdicts were read and afterwards gathered for a candlelight vigil outside the court.

    During the 10-month trial, jurors heard how Pickton lured the women to his farm with money and drugs, killed them, and cut up the bodies and disposed of the remains by feeding them to his pigs and taking them to a rendering plant.

    Robert 'Willie' Pickton
    Pickton lured the women to his farm with money and drugs

    Remains found on the farm included severed skulls and feet. A woman who lived briefly in Pickton's trailer testified she saw him cutting up a body of one of his victims in the middle of the night.

    Jurors also heard a taped conversation in which Pickton told an undercover officer placed in his jail cell that he had killed 49 women and planned to "make it an even 50".

    Pickton did not testify and rarely showed emotion during the trial.

    The victims were among nearly 70 women who disappeared from the Downtown Eastside neighbourhood of the Pacific coast city over a 20-year period. Their disappearances remain under investigation.



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    Killer nurse must serve 30 years...
    Colin Norris outside Newcastle Crown Court
    Colin Norris killed four patients at two hospitals in Leeds...
    A nurse who murdered four elderly hospital patients has been ordered to serve at least 30 years in prison.

    Colin Norris, 32, from Egilsay Terrace, Glasgow, denied killing the women with insulin at two Leeds hospitals in 2002.

    He was convicted on Monday at Newcastle Crown Court and was also found guilty of attempting to murder another woman.

    Jailing him for life, Mr Justice Griffith Williams said: "You are, I have absolutely no doubt, a thoroughly evil and dangerous man."

    Detectives said he showed no remorse for killing Doris Ludlam, 80, Bridget Bourke, 88, Irene Crookes, 79, and Ethel Hall, 86, while he worked at the Leeds General Infirmary and the city's St James's Hospital.

    He also tried to kill Vera Wilby, 90, but she survived the coma which followed the unnecessary insulin injection.

    He was sentenced to a minimum of 20 years in jai for that crime to run concurrently with the life sentence.

    Doctor's vigilance:

    Police began an investigation after Dr Emma Ward noticed in November 2002 that Mrs Hall had slipped into a hypoglycaemic coma despite not being a diabetic.

    Blood tests showed she had insulin levels 12 times the norm. She died three weeks later.

    Detectives looked at other deaths on the wards when Norris was working and found evidence that by the time Dr Ward raised her concerns, he had already killed three times and failed with one attempt.

    Det Ch Supt Chris Gregg, of West Yorkshire Police, said Norris had been growing in confidence and only the vigilance of Dr Ward prevented his six-month murder spree from continuing.

    The nearest the prosecution came to outlining a motive was to suggest that Norris disliked working with the elderly.

    All his victims were frail after suffering from hip problems.

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    What Makes Serial Killers Tick?:

    "It was an urge. ... A strong urge, and the longer I let it go the stronger it got, to where I was taking risks to go out and kill people risks that normally, according to my little rules of operation, I wouldn't take because they could lead to arrest." —Edmund Kemper.
    Where does this urge come from, and why is so powerful? If we all experienced this urge, would we be able to resist? Is it genetic, hormonal, biological, or cultural conditioning? Do serial killers have any control over their desires?


    We all experience rage, yet we have some sort of internal cage that keeps our inner monsters locked up. Call it morality or social programming, these internal blockades have long since been trampled down in the psychopathic killer. Not only have they let loose the monster within, they are virtual slaves to its beastly appetites.

    What sets them apart?

    Serial killers have tested out a number of excuses for their behavior. Henry Lee Lucas blamed his upbringing; others like Jeffrey Dahmer say that they were born with a "part" of them missing.  Ted Bundy claimed pornography made him do it. Herbert Mullin, Santa Cruz killer of thirteen, blamed the voices in his head that told him it was time to "sing the die song." The ruthless Carl Panzram swore that prison turned him into a monster, while Bobby Joe Long said a motorcycle accident made him hypersexual and eventually a serial lust killer. The most psychopathic, like John Wayne Gacy, turned the blame around and boasted that the victims deserved to die.

    They must be insane — what normal person could slaughter another human, for the sheer pleasure of it? Yet the most chilling fact about serial killers is that they are rational and calculating. As the "British Jeffrey Dahmer" Dennis Nilsen put it, "a mind can be evil without being abnormal."

    Before we look at who they are, we must first describe what they are. The FBI defines serial murder as:

    • A minimum of three to four victims, with a "cooling off" period in between;
    • The killer is usually a stranger to the victim — the murders appear unconnected or random;
    • The murders reflect a need to sadistically dominate the victim;
    • The murder is rarely "for profit"; the motive is psychological, not material;
    • The victim may have "symbolic" value for the killer; method of killing may reveal this meaning;
    • Killers often choose victims who are vulnerable (prostitutes, runaways, etc.)

    Statistically, the average serial killer is a white male from a lower-to-middle-class background, usually in his twenties or thirties. Many were physically or emotionally abused by parents. Some were adopted. As children, fledgling serial killers often set fires, torture animals, and wet their beds (these red-flag behaviors are known as the "triad" of symptoms.) Brain injuries are common. Some are very intelligent and have shown great promise as successful professionals. They are also fascinated with the police and authority in general. They have either attempted to become police themselves but were rejected, worked as security guards, or served in the military. Many, including John Gacy, the Hillside Stranglers, and Ted Bundy, have disguised themselves as law enforcement officials to gain access to their victims.

    We believe that we have control over our impulses — no matter how angry we get, there is something that stops us from taking our aggressions out on others. Do serial killers lack a moral safety latch? Or are they being controlled by something unfathomable? "I wished I could stop but I could not. I had no other thrill or happiness," said Dennis Nilsen, who wondered if he was truly evil. Serial killers are undeniably sick, and their numbers seem to be growing.
    Are we in the midst of a serial killer "epidemic," as Joel Norris describes it?
    If this is a disease, what is the cure?


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    Great reading and linkage.
    What Makes Serial Killers Tick?:

    "It was an urge. ... A strong urge, and the longer I let it go the stronger it got, to where I was taking risks to go out and kill people risks that normally, according to my little rules of operation, I wouldn't take because they could lead to arrest." —Edmund Kemper.

    One of these days.....
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