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Was wondering if any of you have views on whether the age for driving should be raised?
I thought i'd ask as it seems to be a talking point in the news and quite often hear people going on about it when i'm out n about due to the (mostly) boys zooming around the streets. Also my sister was in a very bad crash the other evening due to an 18yr old boy not long had his license. She was on her way along one of the back roads here, still early and broad daylight, as she got to a blind hill she stopped to let a car passed as the road's one-way.  She pulled off barely doing about 15mph there it came over the hill toward her wheels off the ground as it flew over the brow,(this is the latest kick they do) she'd nowhere to get away, trees on both sides, now she pulled over much as she could and this boys did have time to avoid her BUT he simply could not drive and ploughed head on. He was doing 110mph. Luckily she'd trade in her little sporty Mazda few weeks back and got a Frontera Sport so with the height the lower car and wheels took the brunt of the impact,or she'd be dead. The other car had no front at all left and the driver and his passenger had serious injuries, not that you'd have known it at the time when the passenger got out and was sitting finishing off his bottle o buckfast. There were 3 in my sis's car, all injured but not serious, though they thought her neck was broken in hospital luckily not. There were girls in the back of the boy's car and they all said they'd been terrified and screaming at him to slow down but he wouldn't, they're all fine but sore now too thank gawd. Don't know exactly what's happening about it all, both cars are written off.
On the same back road my hubby was involved in the same thing few months ago, he managed to land in a field though, again it was an 18yr old.
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Police officer at crash scene
Thirty two young people died in the first three months of 2007
Scotland's police forces have been staging a national day of action in a bid to cut the number of young drivers killed or injured in car accidents.

According to the latest statistics, 32 young people were killed on the roads in the first three months of 2007.

The campaign kicks off a week of events by Scotland's eight police forces which coincides with the United Nations Road Safety Week, running from 23-29 April.

Road accidents are the second biggest cause of death among the under-25s.

Tayside Chief Constable John Vine, chair of the road policing business area for the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland (Acpos) said the project was an important way to raise awareness of the problem among the 17 to 25 age group.

Unacceptably high

He said: "While road safety throughout Scotland has improved dramatically during the past decade, the number of younger drivers and child passengers killed or seriously injured is still unacceptably high.

"In the first three months of this year, 32 young people under 25 have been killed on our country's roads."

During the 24-hour day of action, Scottish police forces are turning their attention to young drivers suspected of using drink and drugs. Young drivers who speed or fail to wear a seatbelt will also be targeted.

"It is hoped that the actions resulting from both the Acpos-focused day-long and the UN-backed week-long campaigns will not only benefit road users of all ages but particularly the under 25-year-olds," Mr. Vine added.

Among those also taking part in the campaign are The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, Road Safety Scotland, the Institute of Road Safety Officers and the Society of Chief Officers of Transportation in Scotland.




Hi Ma

I myself when i was younger was guilty of doing silly things even dangerous in cars such as finding back roads with jumps I do think though that now there is a lot of younger drivers drinking while driving or having their mates in the car full of drink or whatever not all of them but too many something i would never be interested in doing but as ive said im dreading my oldest passing his test and going on the road due to some of the reckless drivers on the road as for raising the age .............im no sure on that one cause then its punishing all young drivers because of the idiots but i can see them raising the age due to the number of drivers on the road 



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Cheers JK  I'd suggest some sort of extra safety test or training, something that'd drum into them NOT to forget what their instructor has taught them and even less points n your banned for a long while, within a time limit, it's 6 points or thereabouts just now, ANYTHING really, for not only is it other drivers on these backroads it's also families out for summer strolls ect with children on bikes and babies in prams. They most definately have to get something done soon as it's what every youngster gets as soon as they're of age now, my daughter too has just got her provisional and i tried to talk her into waiting a few years but she went and got it herself anyway.  I've always since day dot o getting my licence been a safe driver, wouldn't have dreamt of doing anything so daft years back. Been on differant courses too and never felt the need to show off about it, it's here if i need it, to save myself from the likes of these twits.

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Young Driver Factsheet...

Young drivers in Scotland:

  • On average 2000 young people in Scotland pass their practical driving tests every month
  • Young drivers in Scotland represent nearly 5% of licence holders
  • There were 160 17-19 year old males killed or seriously injured on Scotland's roads in 2003
  • 1 in 5 new drivers in Scotland will be involved in an accident in their first year of driving alone
  • Young drivers in Scotland are more than twice as likely to be killed or seriously injured in an accident in a rural area than a built up area
  • 17-22 year old Scottish males are more likely to be involved in an accident than any other age group

Young driver profile:

  • A young driver is typically between 17-19 years old and has held a full driving licence for less than six months
  • Young drivers often think they handle a car well but inexperience implies undeveloped hazard perception
  • Young drivers enjoy driving more than any other age group
  • Young drivers get a strong sense of personal identity from driving a car
  • Young drivers get a sense of power and being in control from driving
  • Young drivers are image- conscience and may commit driving offences to impress their peers
  • Young drivers show greater outward anger towards other drivers
  • Young male drivers are the highest violators of the Highway Code i.e. more likely to speed, race, close follow, undertake, drink and drug drive

Attitudes of young drivers:

  • With a male passenger in the car, young drivers tend to choose riskier speeds
  • When coming to a bend in the road, young male drivers choose faster speeds than any other driving group
  • Young drivers are more likely to 'tailgate' in the presence of male passengers than female passengers
  • Young drivers lack experience and consider themselves better drivers than others do
  • Young drivers often feel they are not likely to suffer any consequences of their actions
  • Young drivers often experience immediate positive 'feel good' emotions when committing driving offences
  • Young drivers can be over- confident which potentially leads to taking risks and unsafe speeds

Laws affecting young drivers:

  • The New Drivers Act puts new drivers 'on probation' for two years from the time they pass their driving test. If the driver receives six or more penalty points in this time they lose their licence and go back to 'learner' status.

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That says it all H6  I think instead of just going back to learner status they should be given punishment same as long term drivers, because their new drivers isn't an excuse, passed their tests same as the rest of us. A ban for a couple of years then a re-sit at the very least!

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Its an interesting subject,when a young teen i had a few "joyriding" experiences but it seems to be more prevalent in todays youth.I know its a BIG thing in Belfast and punishment beatings are still given out for "joyriding" but nowadays ppl go joyriding legally with a license.I know when we were young we always took the cars up the country backroads out of town away from ppl and never went near built up areas really but now when i got to the shop for my paper daily i see wee guys barely able to see over the steering wheel whizz by me doing like 60mph in built up areas,they even got the "go faster" stripes down the side,lol,i think there willl always be "boyracers" no matter what measures are introduced,i mean its not an intelligence thing,clever ppl still do it for the thrills,in fact a lot of time these poor kids being killed are students at uni who are out racing around in nippy little sporty cars their affluent parents bought them.PLEASE DONT MAKE THE TEST HARDER COS IV GOT MINES TO DO IN A FEW MONTHS,lol.Cheers 


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Well Apprentice, that was another example of precisely why i posted the topic.  I wouldn't say it's exactly an intelligence thing either, though being at Uni may mean you've intelligence enough to pass a few exams.....doesn't necessarily mean someone is 'smart' and quickthinking enough to react to a hazard, you'll find it's usually down to the perception of the innocent driver to avoid the stunned mullet about to kill them. A good driver is a safe driver in my opinion, degree or no degree. Anyone can put their foot down and play the deputy dawg. Good luck with your test.



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I agree with apprentice about when jumping about in cars i was the same usually back roads away from anyone and usually at night. At the end of the day every vice can cause problems and this is some peoples vice.

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Well Apprentice, that was another example of precisely why i posted the topic.  I wouldn't say it's exactly an intelligence thing either, though being at Uni may mean you've intelligence enough to pass a few exams.....doesn't necessarily mean someone is 'smart' and quickthinking enough to react to a hazard, you'll find it's usually down to the perception of the innocent driver to avoid the stunned mullet about to kill them. A good driver is a safe driver in my opinion, degree or no degree. Anyone can put their foot down and play the deputy dawg. Good luck with your test.

Great post there Ma.  ......but no real solution to the problem of boy racers


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Aknow....not any suggestions either, wrong topic on my part methinks!!

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Not at all as its a very relevant debate


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I'm suprised nobodys cashed in on it by now, couple o fields, track or maybe better couple o runways, for boy racers (and jk's), make a bomb!! ........jk wit size is yer land???



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You should know better wummin I`ve already thought of that but its the wrong shape



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does it matter.......none o them can drive anyway, the tarmac wud just be for the show  

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Each year over 3,500 young drivers are involved in road accidents. For many of these drivers the crashes result in their deaths or serious injury as well as the death and serious injury of their passengers.
 
Many young drivers feel over-confident in their ability, meaning that they will take many more risks than older, more experienced drivers.
 
This is particularly evident in the over-representation of young drivers in single vehicle 'loss-of-control' crashes, whereby the young driver is going too fast for the conditions and leaves the road.
This was the 48-Sheet Poster used for the Young Drivers campaign.

http://www.road-safety.org.uk/publicity/young_drivers/index.asp

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